Family Names forum: *byning, bynan, byng, bynon...

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Image77sunset
Mar 22, 2010 6:23 PM CST
Name: Jean
Victoria, Australia
I'm in Australia and am finding it very difficult to find info on ancestors pre 1830s in England and Ireland.
This name Bynon, has been so altered over time. My gt gt grandfather was John Bynon. He came to Australia some time before 1853 which is when he married a transported convict named Catherine Murphy from Ireland.
John Bynon has no identifying info that I can find. He arrived here and was in Tasmania when married. I can find no record of him before or after the marriage. The name has changed so much and it was written as Byning when his daughter, Ellen, my gt grandmother married. I know most people back then did not read or write so names were written as they sounded. According to the marriage details , John would have been born in 1833. Maybe Wales, as I have found the name Bynon there. If I could find where and when he left to come to Australia, it may help in pinpointing his origins.
Imageokus
Mar 23, 2010 3:54 AM CST
Name: Carol
Lincolnshire, UK
A quick look at the 1841 census - which I know could be too late for John but gives an indication of geographic spread, has 230 individuals called Bynon, so it isn't an unheard of name. Mainly in the Welsh counties but with a few having spread to the neighbouring English Counties Devon, Goucetershire & Lancashire and the inevitable family in London. I will look further and post again later.

Incidentally 29 of the 1841 people are called John Bynon!!
By 1851 it is down to 14 and by 1861 11 so there was a mass exodus in 1840- 1850. Some of course will have died and only 2 of the 1851 lot are under 10
Carol

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Imageokus
Mar 23, 2010 4:00 AM CST
Name: Carol
Lincolnshire, UK
I have found a James Bynon who was sent to Australia on a Convict ship. Its possible this is your John's father. It doesn't give an age but he could have been as young as 14.
It is an unusual enough name for there not to be many in Australia at that time and the date would be about right for a sentence to be served then a marriage and child who would be marrying pre 1853.

State: New South Wales
Country: Australia
Day of arrival in NSW: 14
Month of arrival in NSW: Feb
Year of arrival in NSW: 1792
Given names: JAMES
Surname: BYNON
Ship name: PITT
Carol

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Imageokus
Mar 23, 2010 4:19 AM CST
Name: Carol
Lincolnshire, UK
Early Australian History is pretty difficult to get to grips with too. Maybe you can help me?

My own Eliza Jane Foothead ( daughter of James and Margaret) made her way to Australia, on her own and as an assisted migrant, as an 18 year old girl in 1857. She married a William Baker in 1866. William was the son of a soldier called William Baker and born in Greenwich in 1820 - or so he said on his marriage certificate.
I can't find any record of him before or after the marriage or how he got to Australia and I would love to know what happened to my great Aunt Eliza but I can find nothing!!
Carol

Imageokus
Mar 23, 2010 4:30 AM CST
Name: Carol
Lincolnshire, UK
I think I may have your man!! I have a John Beynon deprted for life for sheep stealing in 1835 he was 27 at that time, which would have made him 45 when he married your g grandmother. Does that fit?

Snip from the register attached

The trial was in Carmarthen Wales

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Carol

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Imageokus
Mar 23, 2010 8:15 AM CST
Name: Carol
Lincolnshire, UK
I have also found an interesting reference to a Jone Jones Beynon at around the right period. Shropshire is Welsh borders on the English side.

This is a large thin volume, with printed headings, 16 1/2 inches tall and 10 1/2 inches broad, and extends from 1806 to 1837. It is No. 46 of the Shropshire Non-Parochial Registers, preserved at Somerset House. The Ministers who sign are George Ryder 1806 to 1815 , John Jones Beynon 1817 to 1825 , Thomas James 1825 to 1832 , and Thomas Jones 1833 to 1837. There is a column for the signatures of parents, but few of these are filled in, and up to 1829 they are generally signed with a mark. The Chapel was founded in 1795.
Carol

Imageokus
Mar 23, 2010 8:30 AM CST
Name: Carol
Lincolnshire, UK
I have also found an interesting reference to the surnames origins. It is Welsh and started as Ab Enyion or 'son of Enyion' see snippet attached

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Carol

Image77sunset
Mar 23, 2010 4:27 PM CST
Name: Jean
Victoria, Australia
Sorry Carol, that John Beynon can't be my John as the marriage record in Tasmania says my John was a freeman and aged 20 when married in 1853.
The first post you have could be right as most convicts came to NSW first then were sent to Tasmania where my John was married. This would be why I could never find his birth.
I will have a search for him and also for your relative. Thank you.

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