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| Like we didn't know... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ax96cghOnY4 And after you watch that, search 'It gets better' on YouTube & see some of the amazing, heartwarming testimonials from sooooo many others. Been there, lived that, & for me it did get better. Especially when I learned to respond to the 'You're going to hell' folks... 'Promise you won't be there?'  I have little confidence in any enterprise or business or investment that promises dividends only after the death of the stockholders. |
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| I cried all the way through that. It's not just religious bigotry; it's just hatefulness toward anyone perceived to be different. I was just a skinny little girl who didn't fit in and whose parents didn't either. I was mercilessly teased and called names. But I know firsthand the anguish of 'coming out' for a sensitive young man raised in a Catholic family and working in a high testosterone environment. Thankfully, he was accepted by family and friends when he did. Kudos to Joel for speaking out as he did. I need to call the gay councilman here and suggest he make a similar speech. Alma In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock. – Thomas Jefferson |
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tomatofreak wrote:It's not just religious bigotry; it's just hatefulness toward anyone perceived to be different. Oh yes. I know it well. I was tormented mercilessly at school from about the 5th grade till I graduated high school. Left me psychologically scarred for many years. Confidence is that feeling you have right before you do something really stupid. |
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Well, I come from a family that did not accept or support my difference, and I'll tell you, it's a 'special privilege' having masses said to save your eternal soul...  I have little confidence in any enterprise or business or investment that promises dividends only after the death of the stockholders. |
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Well, you are special.....just not the way "They" mean!  Confidence is that feeling you have right before you do something really stupid. |
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| Ain't we all... :biggrin: But the point here being... using religion to justify bullying, bigotry, and killing. 'Cause even though those bottom feeding oxygen thieves didn't tie the knot, didn't pull the trigger, their hatred resulted in someone's death. I stood in my state capital during hearings on HIV/AIDS during the initial outbreak and heard xtian testimony like "I'd rather my son be dead than gay!" I had a friend in college committed to a mental ward by her xtian family 'cause she was a lesbian. I had a 20-something friend in the 80's abducted by her xtian family to 'realign' her orientation... kept under 'house arrest'. It's absolutely no surprise to me that young people kill themselves when faced w/adults like that. I am sooo glad I'm going to hell... I have little confidence in any enterprise or business or investment that promises dividends only after the death of the stockholders. |
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DonkeyJay wrote:I am sooo glad I'm going to hell... Well, you might if there were one.  Alma In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock. – Thomas Jefferson |
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| Sure you haven't already been there? Confidence is that feeling you have right before you do something really stupid. |
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| For as dark & low as I got during my teens, it was nuttin' compared to what some have been through, are going through. But I did refine my stubborn streak, & can give as good as I get if you catch me on the wrong day... on the other days, it's like you say woofie... hate to fight w/unarmed precambrian cold-blooded bottom feeding reptilian brained slow moving proto-roaches w/underdeveloped uni-chambered cardiac organs. IM oh so Humble O Maybe that's not quite how you said it, but I read the subtext...  I have little confidence in any enterprise or business or investment that promises dividends only after the death of the stockholders. |
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| "underdeveloped uni-chambered cardiac organs" is soooooo right. No way could those creatures be described as having a "heart." snarl. Confidence is that feeling you have right before you do something really stupid. |
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| Bi-valve would be a compliment... course, they live on fish waste, but at least their digestive system is a little evolved. If the way to a person's heart is through their stomach, at least there's a little something to work with. Just gotta wean 'em off the fish poop. I have little confidence in any enterprise or business or investment that promises dividends only after the death of the stockholders. |
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| And being 5'9" tall in the 6th grade brought all kinds of mocking and taunting...the 'boys' called me Hippo...and I was not fat. I did get my revenge....years later I was dating a First Class Midshipman when a plebe (freshman) looked really familiar to me...and it turned out to be the stinking little runt who called me Hippo. Well now...I was unforgiving and vindictive....so I told my date who managed to make that Plebe's life HELL on wheels all year. YAY. People can be so cruel to eachother.... I wonder what book they learned that from?  Leap. The net will appear. |
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| Applause to BBC for covering this, & to the UK for having a Forced Marriage Unit... can you imagine it in the US? http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-11613992  I have little confidence in any enterprise or business or investment that promises dividends only after the death of the stockholders. |
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| Wow. The UK is SO much more civilized than the US. Confidence is that feeling you have right before you do something really stupid. |
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| We just turn a blind eye to forced marriage & clitoridectomies... We're much more interested in preventing people who want to from getting married. Because, of course, the ONLY reason to have sex is to produce children. I have little confidence in any enterprise or business or investment that promises dividends only after the death of the stockholders. |
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| Her story just turns my stomach. Poor girl, I hope that she has some measure of peace and love now, she deserves at least that much. As much as it hurts to believe your parents hate you, I think it's probably even more hurtful to have to hate them. In the end, only kindness matters. Art and Artists & The Reading Room http://cubits.org/thereadingroom/ |
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| It comes amazingly easy, actually. But if you mean harmful... yes, because it damages your ability to trust anyone. I just keep thinking of my friend who was abducted by her xtian parents.... did she have to go through something like this?  I have little confidence in any enterprise or business or investment that promises dividends only after the death of the stockholders. |
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| I think that indifference towards parents or a parent is a probably the healthy stage...hate still brings up emotions of some kind and guilt and...and.... Indifference is peaceful. That article proves that families are NOT sacred nor sacrosanct ... Leap. The net will appear. |
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| No, I didn't mean difficult, just painful. It's got to color your world in so many subtle ways, as well as the obvious pain and loneliness. In the end, only kindness matters. Art and Artists & The Reading Room http://cubits.org/thereadingroom/ |
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| Indifference comes w/maturity & distance, I think. I have little confidence in any enterprise or business or investment that promises dividends only after the death of the stockholders. |
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