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AlohaHoya
Oct 18, 2010 4:38 PM CST
Name: Carol Noel
Hawaii (near Hilo)
It's all about choices.
http://www.foodista.com/food/M3XVB7PT/swiss-chard

Chard is one of those vegies needing alot of legroom....the roots grow quite deeply and when they reach as far as they can, the plant starts growing a stalk. I fertilize with Fish Fertilizer or any other high nitrogen fertilizer...

While the Rainbow Chard is really colorful and a bit more tender, I prefer growing the larger leafed Fordhook variety as I have a small space in which to grow it so I want the best bang for my buck.

Instead of throwing out the stalks (I do the same with Kale and other vegies) I chop them up, cook them and give them to my dog (a labrador mix) along with other bits from cleaning the vegies. Thumbs up
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ImageDutchlady1
Oct 18, 2010 5:03 PM CST
Name: Hetty
Sunny Naples, Florida
Oh - for me the stalks are an integral part. I cut them up separately and cook them a little before I add the greens.
AlohaHoya
Oct 18, 2010 5:35 PM CST
Name: Carol Noel
Hawaii (near Hilo)
It's all about choices.
They are good...but my dog deserves good too!!!

I've had the white stalks stringed, and then steamed and served with Hollandaise. Like asparagus....
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ImageWoodwife
Oct 18, 2010 6:34 PM CST
Name: Wendy
N. of Houston, Texas - 8b
An Old Wive's Tale
I planted some a few weeks back they're still at the baby leaf stage. I hope they get with it soon, lol

When do you start giving them the fish emulsion?
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AlohaHoya
Oct 18, 2010 8:47 PM CST
Name: Carol Noel
Hawaii (near Hilo)
It's all about choices.
As soon as they look old enough 'to drink'. Fish Fert is like 5-1-1 and the Nitrogen is stable, it doesn't "flash off" like some of the granular fertilizer exposed to the air and water. I also add about 1 Tbsp. of Molassas to the water. The sugars feed the bacteria and attracts worms ...which poop a lot. Any sugar is good - heck the juice from any canned fruit, a flat coke or, beer you don't need much.... The more bacterial action in the soil with happy worms create good sugars in the plant itself which increases the nutitional stuff which is carried in the sugars... Here's a link where I learned that and a whole bunch of good advice. I don't do it by the book, and I've never made their sexycocktail fertilizer....but maybe I will try it. I will come as close to their own product if I can...or figure something else out. I sorta picked out the information and simplified it for what I can do easily. It WORKS!!

http://www.cropservicesintl.com/ld_homegarden.php



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ImageDonkeyJay
Apr 12, 2011 12:55 PM CST
Name: Jay
northeastern New Mexico
Zone 5b, in the foothills @ 7100'
My chard is coming back from the root left from last year! I left it to overwinter, wondering if it would come back & sure enough it did. And we had a few -20ยบ nights here, so this stuff is hardier than heck! It's mid-April & we've just about got chard again. Way ahead of new greens. Thumbs up
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ImageDutchlady1
Apr 12, 2011 12:58 PM CST
Name: Hetty
Sunny Naples, Florida
Hurray! great!
ImageDonkeyJay
Apr 12, 2011 2:35 PM CST
Name: Jay
northeastern New Mexico
Zone 5b, in the foothills @ 7100'
Just checked that link Carol posted... huh, watering w/coke or cranberry juice. Curious. I wonder why specifically coke & not just any soda? Any body try it last year? Ears perked up!
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AlohaHoya
Apr 12, 2011 5:25 PM CST
Name: Carol Noel
Hawaii (near Hilo)
It's all about choices.
My guess is that it's the sugar. I water in my seedlings with sugar/molassas and manure tea....plants LOVE it...and so do the worms!!!! Big Grin
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ImageDonkeyJay
Apr 12, 2011 5:32 PM CST
Name: Jay
northeastern New Mexico
Zone 5b, in the foothills @ 7100'
Nah... then you could use any soda. Coke is very acidic (a tooth left in coke will disappear in a month, no joke), so I'll wager that has something to do w/it. Well, generic coke is cheap, I'll give it a try. Our soil & water is pretty alkaline, so it sure won't hurt anything!

I've seen more & more on using sugar to raise the brix as well. Cheap & easy! Thumbs up
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ImageDonkeyJay
Apr 12, 2011 5:51 PM CST
Name: Jay
northeastern New Mexico
Zone 5b, in the foothills @ 7100'
I went researching the coke question & found a mess of kids doing experiments watering plants w/all kinds of stuff. The interesting thing is that milk seemed to create the most reliable growth, until fungus took over. Out in the garden, a little diluted milk would probably convert to all kinds of nice sugars in the soil as well as ??? for the worms, etc.

Also, tea seemed to reliably produce good effects, so tea w/a bit of sugar... we can save our used tea bags & just steep them in a bucket.... the donks won't be happy, but tough titties guys. Big Grin
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AlohaHoya
Apr 12, 2011 6:48 PM CST
Name: Carol Noel
Hawaii (near Hilo)
It's all about choices.
Interesting about the acidity!!! I need to water my blueberries with it, then.

Yes...I found that organic fert/molassas info on a site called CSI (of all things) and it was to raise the brix. There is a good solution of milk plus water to spray for sootie mildew (which probably isn't one of your major worries Whistling ). I do put sugar in my waterings...

You have calcium in your soil?
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ImageDonkeyJay
Apr 12, 2011 7:12 PM CST
Name: Jay
northeastern New Mexico
Zone 5b, in the foothills @ 7100'
Not so much in the soil as in our well water. Thumbs down Plugs drip emitters in a year. Yeah, we don't have to worry about mildew much here... they just declared a water emergency in our nearby town, no outside watering, nada, none, zero, zip allowed due to the drought.

We're not under that restriction, being on a well & 15 miles out of town, but we're starting to put buckets under the sink to catch grey water. Ain't nothin' as miserable as a dry well... Crying
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AlohaHoya
Apr 12, 2011 8:15 PM CST
Name: Carol Noel
Hawaii (near Hilo)
It's all about choices.
What about magnesium? Ever have the soil tested?

Smart idea about catching the grey water!!! Phosphates can't hurt either.... Big Grin
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ImageDonkeyJay
Apr 12, 2011 9:07 PM CST
Name: Jay
northeastern New Mexico
Zone 5b, in the foothills @ 7100'
What about magnesium? Huh? Where'd that come from? Confused
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AlohaHoya
Apr 12, 2011 10:36 PM CST
Name: Carol Noel
Hawaii (near Hilo)
It's all about choices.
Calcium is unavailble to the plants if there is no magnesium...and that's why most complete ferts (like Dolomitic Limestone) has calcium and magnesium. Epsom Salts are a cheap form of magnesium.... But you don't want to add it unless you are lacking. I would call the County Extension Service (attached to a Land Grant Univrsity in your area) and ask about the soil in your area. If they are clueless, they can do an analysis. Really...you can have all the Calcium in the world but without magnesium, it's worthless.... You could probably Google the information...goodness knows you can Google just about anything.... Big Grin
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ImageDonkeyJay
Apr 13, 2011 9:11 AM CST
Name: Jay
northeastern New Mexico
Zone 5b, in the foothills @ 7100'
Why are you going off on this track? Confused
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AlohaHoya
Apr 13, 2011 11:20 AM CST
Name: Carol Noel
Hawaii (near Hilo)
It's all about choices.
...because of the link of calcium and magnesium. I thought you wanted to know...but you probably already did. Big Grin
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ImageDonkeyJay
Apr 13, 2011 11:34 AM CST
Name: Jay
northeastern New Mexico
Zone 5b, in the foothills @ 7100'
If you review, you're the one that asked if I had calcium in my soil, I thought in response to my saying our soil here is alkaline. Then you sorta shot off in your own direction. Did you just read a book about this or something? Under the influence of a new enthusiasm, as the Friends would say? Big Grin
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AlohaHoya
Apr 13, 2011 11:52 AM CST
Name: Carol Noel
Hawaii (near Hilo)
It's all about choices.
Nah...it's just a big thing here. Guess I thought it was a big thing everywhere....sorry...back on track... Whistling
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