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Imagezuzu
Oct 30, 2010 1:29 AM CST
Name: Zuzu
Northern California
zone 9
I think this site is behaving outrageously! I have never joined Facebook and I don't plan to join Facebook, but a few days ago I received a Facebook-generated invitation from a friend (a real friend, not a fake name) to join Facebook. The e-mail included the names and photos of other people I know on Facebook. The names apparently were culled from my e-mail address book.

I think this is an outrageous assault on my privacy. I didn't make any overtures to Facebook, so how can Facebook feel entitled to go through my e-mail address book, trolling for names? The names and images were already in the e-mail when I opened it. How can they use an e-mail from a friend as an excuse to read my e-mail address book?
Imagewcgypsy
Oct 30, 2010 5:42 AM CST
Name: Sherry
Crescent City, Ca.
Same reasons I have no desire to be a part of Facebook no matter how many people ask...I also do not keep anyone's e-mail address in my 'contacts'.....
Imagezuzu
Oct 30, 2010 4:27 PM CST
Name: Zuzu
Northern California
zone 9
Yahoo mail automatically adds addresses to my contacts. And it's so convenient to just type the name of the person and have Yahoo suggest addresses. I would never be able to keep them offline. Where do you keep them, Sherry?
Imagewcgypsy
Oct 30, 2010 7:10 PM CST
Name: Sherry
Crescent City, Ca.
I don't send e-mails to that many people (maybe 10),so I've remembered their e-mail addresses. Otherwise, goes in my address book.
Imagezuzu
Oct 30, 2010 7:35 PM CST
Name: Zuzu
Northern California
zone 9
I do a lot of e-mailing. I don't have a car and I don't have long-distance telephone service, so I communicate a lot by e-mail. I do 90% of my shopping on line, including grocery shopping, and if I didn't have those addresses in my e-mail address book, I'd spend half my life trying to find them elsewhere.

As it is, I usually have to look for my physical address book all over the place if I need to find someone's phone number. It always seems to be missing from its designated spot. I honestly used to think my son was to blame for that, but he hasn't lived here for more than 10 years and I still can't find my address book, or any pens, or the scissors, etc., etc., etc.
Calsurf73
Oct 30, 2010 11:02 PM CST
Name: Mike
Long Beach, Ca.
When I can't find something, the first place I look is the refrigerator.
No desire here, either, to join facebook or any of those other things.
Imagezuzu
Oct 30, 2010 11:12 PM CST
Name: Zuzu
Northern California
zone 9
Is that the secret to how you stay so lean? Your refrigerator's so full of address books, pens, and scissors that there's no room for food?
Calsurf73
Oct 31, 2010 10:11 AM CST
Name: Mike
Long Beach, Ca.
Hardly. I eat like a horse. I'm always in a rush to do something and somehow, the most bizarre things end up in my fridge...or in my tool box. I think my cats do it to drive me nuts.

When we were kids, my mom turned the house upside down looking for the "good scissors". We found them in a container of Quaker Oats.

KathleenC
Nov 3, 2010 5:57 PM CST
Name: Kathleen/KaperC
N San Diego County, CA
Hi Mike. John asked about you the other day and said to tell you hi when you next popped up.

I do use Facebook - though I block nearly everything, FWIW - games and anything that requires access to my data. Seems to have worked, because I haven't have any problems so far. It's a way for me to follow my sister's kids and grandkids, my stepson in England, his god-daughter's growing up, etc. I also follow bird rescue sites, and other sites of interest. If it becomes a problem, or they don't keep after the porn that sneaks in, I will drop it, but I would miss it.

Zuzu, it might be that you don't have your computer protected in some way that allows that to happen. I have received requests from others on FB and they only included names and pics of those people that were mutual friends already on my FB contacts list - nothing from my computer. I think I've succeeded in blocking that now, too.

The tools are usually there, but it takes perseverance (what my mom used to call her good friend "Percy") to find and use them - and most people don't want to spend the time, which I understand. Whenever I join a site, I look for the privacy policy and opt out or block anything that doesn't advance my goal in joining the site.
Imagezuzu
Nov 3, 2010 8:30 PM CST
Name: Zuzu
Northern California
zone 9
I suppose I never even considered making my e-mail addresses confidential, Kathleen. I've heard of malicious hackers invading e-mail address books and sending out viruses, but even they apparently can't do it until I click on some link in their e-mail. I've never heard of any legitimate site being audacious enough to just barge into my e-mail records, without any sort of overture on my part, and look for people that might lure me to the site. I have never had any connection whatsoever to Facebook, so I'm a little surprised by this. I thought Facebook had millions of members, so I'm surprised that they're on such an active and invasive hunt for people who've never shown any interest in their site.
KathleenC
Nov 3, 2010 11:19 PM CST
Name: Kathleen/KaperC
N San Diego County, CA
I'm just puzzled how they can do it. I had several requests before I joined, but they never accessed my private address book. Confused
Imagezuzu
Nov 3, 2010 11:45 PM CST
Name: Zuzu
Northern California
zone 9
In today's monopolistic world, I suppose Facebook must be affiliated in some way with Yahoo, my e-mail provider. That's the only explanation that makes sense to me. They apparently just took the liberty of scanning my list of e-mail addresses, matching them with Facebook members, and then posted their names and photographs for me as an enticement to join Facebook.

Ironically, although some actually are people I know well, others are almost unknown to me. One of the people they said I knew on Facebook is the tech on a rose site that had a glitch in its software. I informed the site of the glitch, and this tech sent me an e-mail to thank me for the information. Yahoo automatically added him to my address book. That's the only contact I've ever had with this person, so I know Facebook could only have gathered its information from my e-mail records.

The whole thing is just distasteful in several ways and it bothers me that they did this. If I'd ever had any inclination to join Facebook, that e-mail certainly would have eradicated it.
KathleenC
Nov 4, 2010 9:46 AM CST
Name: Kathleen/KaperC
N San Diego County, CA
I would be more inclined to drop Yahoo in addition to ignoring FB! Somewhere, somehow, they have built in permission to use/share your address book. That would bother me. Our ISP uses Yahoo, but we have chosen not to.

We've been happy so far with Google Mail, but now Google is becoming a behemoth, too!
Imagezuzu
Nov 4, 2010 12:53 PM CST
Name: Zuzu
Northern California
zone 9
That's a good idea. Yahoo came into my life as part of a package deal when I switched to AT&T's DSL service. I used to have Netscape mail, but Netscape became part of AOL, which is another irritating place I never wanted to join. Sea Monkey has all of the old features of Netscape without the AOL connection, so maybe I'll move everything over there.
KathleenC
Nov 4, 2010 3:50 PM CST
Name: Kathleen/KaperC
N San Diego County, CA
We have AT&T DSL, too. We used to have a wireless service and got used to setting up our own email accounts. I have several with Gmail and use a lot of Google apps, too, with no problems so far.
Imagezuzu
Nov 4, 2010 3:59 PM CST
Name: Zuzu
Northern California
zone 9
I'm getting a little fed up with AT&T. The DSL was running slow, so they talked me into upgrading to Pro and then to Elite. I didn't think it was faster, but thought it must be my imagination. Then I found out how to run a speed test. I'm paying for 6mbps and I'm getting 1.3. Turns out their equipment in my area doesn't even accommodate Pro or Elite, so now they owe me $140 for all the months I've been paying the extra for those services. My bill just arrived and they gave me a credit for $1.40. I guess they don't know about decimal points. Plus, they're still charging me for Elite.

A girl from Comcast (Xfinity now) came by the other day and said I would get 15mbps if I switched over to their DSL service, and it would cost less than AT&T.
Imagewcgypsy
Nov 4, 2010 4:15 PM CST
Name: Sherry
Crescent City, Ca.
I'm not happy with AT&T either and you just answered my question for me...we pay for mid-range service DSL (whatever that is, I forget the amount) and it's not satisfactory, so I wondered if paying for the faster would really help or if they just make the mid-range slower so you'll pay for the faster. Cable is not available right where we are so that is not an option either. I got a kick out of what rebecca (another cubit) said about getting a new cellphone and she was happy with the whole package until once again even with the new one, being sent to India and getting someone with whom she could not converse at all...getting more and more annoyed and talking louder and louder until the Indian woman on the other end said, "Thank you for speaking so clearly and loudly to me." Becca said she just had to stop and smile.......
I called AT&T just once and was so happy to get someone who spoke English clearly (I'd heard everyone else's nightmare stories), but he needed info that I didn't have so I needed to call back and, sure enough, got someone who not only could not be understood, but appeared to be new as well...I gave up and hung up....there were many things about the 50's and 60's that were quite nice in hindsight.....
Imagezuzu
Nov 4, 2010 4:58 PM CST
Name: Zuzu
Northern California
zone 9
The mid-range is called Pro and the super-duper-duper one is called Elite.

AT&T's regular DSL goes up to 1.5mbps, pro gets 3mbps, and elite gets 6mbps.

Check your speed on this site and see whether you're actually getting the speed you're supposed to be getting:

http://speedtest.net/
KathleenC
Nov 4, 2010 6:22 PM CST
Name: Kathleen/KaperC
N San Diego County, CA
Right now we're getting 5+ dl speed, but only .5 upload. DH says this is normal for our service. We did have our connection checked a couple of times. Once, when a different tech connected someone else in the same box, he moved our connection and screwed it all up. When we had it checked, 'our' tech put things back and it worked fine. Obviously, they have trouble with the technical ability of some of their employees.

Sherry, I'd holler at them if I were you. Do a few speed tests at different times and keep a record, then call them with the evidence and demand some service.
Imagewcgypsy
Nov 4, 2010 7:45 PM CST
Name: Sherry
Crescent City, Ca.
Thanks, I didn't know about 'speed tests'...lol...not a computer geek here. I'll call and get the same gibberish speaking guy again, I'm sure. Jer's been *really* annoyed with it at times. I'll wait until he's really ticked off and get him to call them...lol..

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