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Imagestormyla
Aug 14, 2010 1:48 PM CST
Name: Stormy
Valley Forge Pa
I Love MAM ~ So Happy Together
I thought that this word or phrase deserved it's own thread because it is the first word that I learned here at Cubits. Quite possibly it deserves the creation of another Forum because it turns out that it is a regional phrase. Further qualifying it for that distinction is that the search for it's meaning revealed a bonus equivalent regional phrase.

"I swanny" is a southern US phrase. In New England there is a comparable phrase, "I vum".

"I swanny" is similar to using that other well used southern phrase, "I do declare"

They are both used to express amazement or certainty.

"I Swanny" has it's derivation in Old English, "I shall warrant you", pronounced "I s'wan ye".

"I vum" is a New England term that is also used to express amazement or certainty.

"vum" is an alteration of the old english verb "vow".

Here is the background on "I swanny" and the home page of this fun & useful language site, The Word-Detective.

http://www.word-detective.com/092906C.html

http://www.word-detective.com/
ImagePoochella
Aug 15, 2010 8:43 PM CST
Name: Annie
Western WA Zone USDA 7b
Relax. It's only a small setback.
I see it and I swanny that I read it.
Imagestormyla
Aug 15, 2010 8:52 PM CST
Name: Stormy
Valley Forge Pa
I Love MAM ~ So Happy Together
LOL!! That website is full of fun stuff.
Imagestormyla
Aug 15, 2010 8:53 PM CST
Name: Stormy
Valley Forge Pa
I Love MAM ~ So Happy Together
Well, now that we turned Dahlia's old word thread into a regional expression and pronunciation thread, I don't suppose we need this one.
ImagePoochella
Aug 15, 2010 9:00 PM CST
Name: Annie
Western WA Zone USDA 7b
Relax. It's only a small setback.
I am going to have to bookmark Word detective for winter reading. Fabulous! Thanks for the link.

I do take exception to picking on mourning doves, whose calls I closely associate with lazy summer mornings growing up, but in no way are they stupid. I don't think.

From Word Detective:
Gee, I miss pigeons. I was a big fan of pigeons when I lived in New York City, but out here in the country the closest things we have are mourning doves, birds so stupid they make pigeons seem like shoo-ins for Mensa.
Imagestormyla
Aug 15, 2010 9:06 PM CST
Name: Stormy
Valley Forge Pa
I Love MAM ~ So Happy Together
LOL I did remember reading that.
Imagestormyla
Aug 16, 2010 11:00 AM CST
Name: Stormy
Valley Forge Pa
I Love MAM ~ So Happy Together
We were talking in my cubit about how as children, our Halloween costumes were often "Hand me Downs".

It suddenly struck me what a strange phrase "Hand me downs" really is. It made me wonder about it's origin. I looked in the Word Detective, but there is no entry for it. I'm wondering if the use of the "me" implies an Irish derivation. Of course, it could just be an American expression.
ImageKelli
Aug 16, 2010 11:16 AM CST
Name: Kelli
California, USDA 10, Sunset 19
Where summer is winter
That's a new one for me, and so is "I vum". If I just had to guess what I swanny meant, I would guess that it meant, "I'm warm and sweaty." Rolling my eyes.
ImagePoochella
Aug 16, 2010 11:30 PM CST
Name: Annie
Western WA Zone USDA 7b
Relax. It's only a small setback.
I've been Kelli's version of I Swanny for 3 days now and will welcome a chill back down to the 70's again.

"Hand me downs," is familiar. It makes sense a larger being would hand someone smaller down an article of smaller, usable clothing. I have "hand me up" garden tshirts from my DD! Big Grin As in, "You're not going to throw that away are you?

"I vum" is a complete mystery to me: either Midwestly or West Coastie. I have used "I've um" as in "I've um.... backed the car into a post, honey."
Imagestormyla
Aug 16, 2010 11:44 PM CST
Name: Stormy
Valley Forge Pa
I Love MAM ~ So Happy Together
Oh no! I swanny that's a real tragedy.

Maybe someone will hand you down a used bumper. Hilarious!
ImageKelli
Aug 17, 2010 10:25 AM CST
Name: Kelli
California, USDA 10, Sunset 19
Where summer is winter
"I swanny" also reminds me of what they say in old westerns, "I savvy" or "You savvy", as in know or understand. ("You better stay off my land or next time I recon you won't get off so easy. You savvy?") I'd bet money that "savvy" in this case comes from the Spanish.
Imagedahlianut
Aug 17, 2010 4:18 PM CST
Name: Dahlianut
Calgary, AB Zone 3a
I vum. Sounds like a car revving up and speeding away.... va-va-vum-vroom. How do you use it stormyla? I'm going to throw 'vum' around a bit. .... "I vum not to blow anything up today"... "I vum to that".... "O VUM!"....
Imagestormyla
Aug 17, 2010 4:24 PM CST
Name: Stormy
Valley Forge Pa
I Love MAM ~ So Happy Together
There Dahlia, you've surely put the vum to good use. I vum that I never heard of it before the other day. It did say that commonly the I isn't even included. Simply a "Vum" completes the sentence all by it's lonesome. Vum must be one of the powerful words.

The spell check guy is not making nice with the vum.
ImageKelli
Aug 17, 2010 4:25 PM CST
Name: Kelli
California, USDA 10, Sunset 19
Where summer is winter
Vum = vodka + rum?
Imagedahlianut
Aug 17, 2010 4:33 PM CST
Name: Dahlianut
Calgary, AB Zone 3a
SWEET! Kelli that is a great definition too!

vum: 1) an exclamation of attestation and/or shock (regional to the northeast of the United States)
2) a refreshing beverage made with vodka and rum


Imagestormyla
Aug 17, 2010 4:35 PM CST
Name: Stormy
Valley Forge Pa
I Love MAM ~ So Happy Together
Hmmmm..There do seem to be a fair amount of spirits floating around the Dahlianut world.

Thanks for pointing that out Kelli.
Imagestormyla
Aug 17, 2010 4:36 PM CST
Name: Stormy
Valley Forge Pa
I Love MAM ~ So Happy Together
LOL, .First Dahlianut Database Dictionary entry. Try saying that fast 3 times!!
grownut
Nov 10, 2010 3:38 PM CST
I've never heard I vum...but I have heard "I *swan*" used...never swanny...
mamajack
Apr 7, 2011 5:10 PM CST
Name: barb allison
Fate, Texas zone 8a
miss. born and bred..........and i swanny is alive and well there.
Imagedahlianut
Apr 8, 2011 8:24 AM CST
Name: Dahlianut
Calgary, AB Zone 3a
Good to know mamajack. Thanks muchly Smiling

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