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Patrick51 wrote: ... Patrick51 wrote: Ah, Carol...you have better eyesight than I do...though I didn't really believe the last picture was a lacunosa...but, if it was, it would have to be the "regular" one..which has no splotching on the leaves...though most lacunosas are fully glabrous and shiny. Jelinda, in the 3 1/2 years that I've been collecting hoyas, I've never found one correctly named H. bilobata...I'm not even sure if it's an available plant in the US. I do know, positively, that your plant is not H. tsangii....I have one from a dear friend on this forum....it has very dainty, shiny leaves, blooms are a fragrant yellow...one of my most favorite hoyas... I have to side with Patrick, for the most part, on these questions. And, as you will surely hear often, we need to see the flowers... According to the rules of nomenclature in effect, clones or cultivars (cv.s) are written with a capitalized name and a single quote around the name, like 'This'. Latinized names are not allowed for cultivars, so 'Krimson Princess' would be preferred over 'Rubra', although you will see both. Similarly, we should be using H. 'Laura Lei' over 'Variegata', and 'Regalis', while Latinized, does not have a better alternate. I don't want to be the "name cop" here, but I just thought I would state the correct way, since this is the ID forum. On the last plant, i differ with the others, I don't think it's a H. lacunosa at all, but one of the Acanthostemmas such as sp. DS 70, or H. burtoniae. Flowers will tell us... edited to correct error on clone name |
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| Here, again, Dorothy can post an article Ted wrote which can explain it.... Leap. The net will appear. |
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| David, isn't "Lura Lei" the same as "Mauna Loa"? The compacta with the pink to yellow-cream variegation in the center of the leaf, right? Just the latter, a Cobia trademarked name? "When you have only two pennies left in the world, buy a loaf of bread with one, and a lily with the other." - Chinese Proverb |
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| Laura, so this thread does not veer too far off, I'm starting a new one on the "compacta" question here on this forum http://cubits.org/Hoya/thread/view/65881/ But you are right on my error above - edited. |
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| To get back on track... I agree with the possible ID of DS70. Less confident about burtoniae, only b/c mine has darker, smaller leaves when compared to DS70, which seems to get pinky in high light, and burtoniae becomes purple. Same conditions I grow them both in. I have seen this EA identified as DS70 on other forums. EA wants to call it both bilobata and tsangii at the same time! http://www.exoticangel.com/plant-library/species/hoya/item/3... "When you have only two pennies left in the world, buy a loaf of bread with one, and a lily with the other." - Chinese Proverb |
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| Remember that leaves are NO indication .... not their size nor color.... Leap. The net will appear. |
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| Generally I agree Carol, when comparing two individuals of the same species, grown in different conditions by different people... My bold statement is based on growing BOTH under my growing conditions... So when you look at them, side by each, colour and leaf size are the most visible differences... I suppose burtonaie is fuzzier with rounder leaves, and DS70 has more slender leaves... What are the differences you know of?  Additionally, I'm siding with DS70, b/c it's much more common than burtonaie, and I know with some degree of certainty, EA sells baskets of DS70. That red basket has the tell-tale "rope" hangers that are EA, not to say it couldn't have been recycled, mindu! So I hope you don't think I went off entirely half-cocked. Maybe 1/4.  "When you have only two pennies left in the world, buy a loaf of bread with one, and a lily with the other." - Chinese Proverb |
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Well...the differences are, in leaves, but particularly in the flowers. H. burtoniae and DS70 have changed names so often...I don't know which opinion to follow so I ignore the whole thing and don't grow either!!!!  Leap. The net will appear. |
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That is THE darn funniest thing I've read today, by far Carol! I truly am LOL  right now! After I posted I realized the flowers are quite different colours, duh.  "When you have only two pennies left in the world, buy a loaf of bread with one, and a lily with the other." - Chinese Proverb |
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| Leap. The net will appear. |
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| Well, we could just start calling them "My favorite Hoya this week" and then the next week change to a different one...since the names change so much..ALMOST, but not QUITE as bad as Orchids. ' |
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| Good morning everyone, Been really busy and haven't had a lot of time to get on the computer. The mystery plant is doing really well,it's looking like it has made itself right at home!!!  It is putting out new shoots & little fuzzy baby leaves.I think it had a rough ride to the store I purchased it from.When the leaves or stems are broken the POUR milky white sap.The plant was covered in it,now after a couple of warm, soft showers it really looks good.I took the advice i was given and it's hanging in my kitchen window over the sink,which the morning sun shines in. Laura, i went to the EA website last night to look up Hoya 'tri-color' which i seen at a store yesterday and to me it looked like a smaller version of my H.'krimson queen'. You are correct my mystery plant is an EA plant and on the website it's labeled just like it was when i bought it H.'bilobata/tsangii' the picture if you click on it & blow it up is an exact match to my plant.I copied the link and was reading the post i have missed and you have already posted the link.  Of course i can't go without leaving you with a question about the H. 'tri-color'  Is the" Hoya Carnosa Variegata"I copied that id from the web site" just another name for H.'krimson queen' or is there a difference.They label H. 'krimson princess' H. 'rubra'.Are there any plants that stay small or will they all end up in hanging basket's in time?.I like them in HB's!! I thought compacta meant small or dwarf. Everyone have a lovely day!!! Jo   Is that stem that's growing out of the soil what the buds grow on??? I asked for a flower and he gave me a garden,then grand-kids to work in it with me!!!! |
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| YES!! THAT is a peduncle. Look for it to become green on the end, and that will tell you it's getting ready. Still waiting on mine... Yes, EA's labeling is a hot mess. Tricolour is Krimson Queen. Rubra is Krimson Princess. Most people on these forums think the plant that EA sells as tsangii/bilobata is really sp. DS-70. Blooms will tell! Read read read, Jelinda! Soo much information! "When you have only two pennies left in the world, buy a loaf of bread with one, and a lily with the other." - Chinese Proverb |
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| If you google PS THE HOYAN and read the most recent, CMB discusses H. bilobata. Wonder if a little bird......? Leap. The net will appear. |
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| Coincidence? Maybe. Last edition she spoke of some goings on on here and another... So she had her sources, that's certain. "When you have only two pennies left in the world, buy a loaf of bread with one, and a lily with the other." - Chinese Proverb |
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| Oh yes...it is a wee little world...there are those that pass on information...and bless their hearts because without it she would be so lonely! Leap. The net will appear. |
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