Hoya talk forum: A Hoya serpens Rhapsody in Two Parts

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ImageHoyaDoug
Aug 16, 2012 8:02 AM CST
Name: Doug
Lamoille County, VT
Here is the link to my newest time-lapse video: A Hoya serpens Rhapsody in Two Parts. It is around a minute and a half long and contains, what I think is some of my best footage of blooms opening to date. Hoya serpens this year is a plant that just keeps giving and giving. Besides having a seedpod; its final peduncle of blooms for the year opened yesterday. The link: http://youtu.be/R7HeGY9hbYs

The bloom photo:
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AlohaHoya
Aug 16, 2012 11:39 AM CST
Name: Carol Noel
Hawaii (near Hilo)
It's all about choices.
Beautiful, Doug!!!!
Leap. The net will appear.
Imagerevelation19
Aug 16, 2012 12:39 PM CST
Name: Daniel
Saxonia-Anhalt / Germany
Yeah, who is that little guy in the beginning?? Thumbs up
And have although watched the video of your stupendous lobbii, hope mine will look like that sometimes.

Daniel
Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
Albert Einstein
ImageHoyaDoug
Aug 16, 2012 4:40 PM CST
Name: Doug
Lamoille County, VT
Thank you Carol, and Daniel! Daniel, I'm sure when your lobbii is five years old like mine, it will be every bit as large Smiling
ImageJulieK
Aug 17, 2012 12:00 AM CST
Name: Julie Kennedy
UK
oh stunning footage Doug - your new camera really is suberb!
I love the chipmonk and the cows.....but missing the humiliated cats just a little Big Grin Lovey dubby
ImageHoyaDoug
Aug 17, 2012 8:48 AM CST
Name: Doug
Lamoille County, VT
Thanks Julie, I've just got to find a way to humiliate those cats a little bit more Big Grin
plumania
Aug 17, 2012 1:11 PM CST
Name: Alka
South Florida
That is a great video Doug. Nice music too. And the cows with that 'tube top' Hilarious!
I have lots of chipmunks and they damage my Mango fruits. Even gnaw on the tree trunks.
I enjoy your videos. Thanks.
ImageHoyaDoug
Aug 17, 2012 2:29 PM CST
Name: Doug
Lamoille County, VT
That is a great line Alka "Cows with a tube top" Rolling on the floor laughing I looked them up and the breed is the Belted Galloway, but I like your name better. Those darned chipmunks are kind of like rats, but they are so cute, I just let them do their thing even though they planted sunflowers in almost all of my greenhouse Hoyas. I'm glad you like my videos; I try to make them fun for people who don't even like plants.

Doug
ImageLali_Go_Lightly
Aug 18, 2012 8:31 AM CST
Name: Lali (Begoniacrazii)
NorCal
Doug, I always enjoy your videos and today took some time to watch the one on your experiment with H. praetorii

I just got a cutting of this one from Thailand day before yesterday and have it rooting my my normal method (fish tank filled with 50/50 perlite & vermiculite) but I'm leaning toward putting in the semi-hydro method now that I see how well yours did. Even though it wasn't in transit long, the leaves are wilted though the stem is turgid.

I grow 4 of my 5 H. kerrii varieties in the semi hydro method and they go crazy. The one in soil looks about the same as it did 2 years ago!! It has one new leaf.

Of course the cuttings Iris sent of H. kerrii were very generous in size but even still the semi-hydro seems to agree with them.

In my recent shipment from Thailand I also picked up H. campanulata which 'feels' similar though I have never tried to grow either of these. So my question is, do you think H. campanulata will appreciate growing in the SH also?

My other question is - do you tip prune your praetorii to encourage a fuller plant?
Thanks again for taking the time to upload the great videos.
Perception is Unique!
ImageJulieK
Aug 19, 2012 1:12 AM CST
Name: Julie Kennedy
UK
Lali, I don't have praetorii, but I do have a small campanulata (from Doug - thank you Lovey dubby ) which I rooted semi hydro. It flowered within 7 weeks of receiving it and is putting out a lovely new shoot already. I was waiting until it had finished flowering before moving it to a larger pot! Will upload a photo as soon as my camera battery has charged Smiling

I'm not sure if Doug grows his SH - but I'm sure he'll tell us! Good point about pinching out the tips of praetorii....I have a wonderfully straggly plant of H bella. Should I pinch that out too?
ImageHoyaDoug
Aug 19, 2012 6:23 AM CST
Name: Doug
Lamoille County, VT
Lali, You absolutely must grow your new praetorii in semi-hydro! It so out performs its soil grown counterparts that it is no longer a competition. Right now I have four huge peduncles of developing buds on the one in s-h. It grows like a weed; I am currently watering it twice a day, morning and night always with plant food in the water. It is for sure not a plant grown for its looks! Chopping it back won't really produce a bushier plant, but will give you additional cuttings. When I decide to chop mine back again, I will probably put three cuttings in one pot, and that might just yield a fuller plant.

As for campanulata, I grow mine almost wet in potting mix and for some reason the roots don't rot; I would not want to try it if it were cool. After seeing Julie's results in S-H, I think if I were you, I would try to grow it that way as well. At some point if my plant starts to fail, I will try one that way as well.

Doug
ImageLali_Go_Lightly
Aug 19, 2012 7:58 AM CST
Name: Lali (Begoniacrazii)
NorCal
Thanks for the tips Julie & Doug. Smiling
I think I'll repot the cuttings into SH today and bag them until they are rooted.

For the 4 H. kerrii varieties that are grown SH, I put them in normal plastic pots, some are in 6" some are 4" and then placed the hydronton in the pot and placed the pot into a normal type of plastic dish (the kind you can buy for super cheap thatis designed to just catch water) I just keep them full all of the time and so far no problems. Only the bottom inch or so of the pot is ever in water, and I am assuming it just wicks up as needed. I also keep food in the water, alternating sea kelp or MaxSea triple 16 or bloom booster.

I spent some time yesterday looking at semi hydro pots online from orchid supply vendors and I think Doug that you have the best solution with the inexpensive paint buckets like you show in your SH Youtube video.

There is a woman in Europe (Sweden I think) on one of the Facebook hoya groups who always posts the most amazing looking hoya and they are all in SH. She uses a particular brand of SH pot that has a water level indicator and they look 'prettier' for use in my living room but aren't easy to find in the US. I found one vendor who has the pots for sale and a few more that sell only the water level ind.

I don't think I can keep up with twice a day watering so I'll likely go with the same method I use with H. kerrii, I water once a week when I have them inside (so far no problems with stinky or stale water) and now that they are outside for the summer, I hose them off every other day and feed once a week. They've doubled in size since spring.

Thanks again Doug for the videos! Sorry to hijack your serpens thread. I can start another on SH if you like.
Perception is Unique!
Imagerevelation19
Aug 19, 2012 8:24 AM CST
Name: Daniel
Saxonia-Anhalt / Germany
Hi Lali,

I do it meanwhile quiet similar like You. I use some boxes for washing detergent with normal plastic pots and they are standing always in the water. And there are two advantages, first, I can stack the boxes so I´ll have mor space to root cuttings and second, I can open and close the lid, depending on the outside temperature. And it works great for me.... Thumbs up

Here´s an example

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Daniel
Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
Albert Einstein
ImageJulieK
Aug 19, 2012 12:50 PM CST
Name: Julie Kennedy
UK
brilliant idea Daniel! I hope some of those cuttings are for trading Big Grin
ImageHoyaDoug
Aug 20, 2012 4:05 AM CST
Name: Doug
Lamoille County, VT
No worry about hijacking the serpens thread! All very good information Lali and Daniel Thumbs up
Imagerevelation19
Aug 20, 2012 5:42 AM CST
Name: Daniel
Saxonia-Anhalt / Germany
*Blush*
Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
Albert Einstein
Imagecpawl
Aug 21, 2012 5:38 AM CST
Name: cindy
Delta, BC,Canada
Nice work Doug with the video. Hurray! I tip my hat to you.
ImageHoyaDoug
Aug 21, 2012 5:50 AM CST
Name: Doug
Lamoille County, VT
Thank you Cindy! I trust you had a fantastic time on your nearly around the world trip!

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