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ImagePatti1957
Mar 3, 2011 10:42 PM CST
Name: Patti
Eagle Point, OR
Anyone have any suggestions on how to get this cubit talking? If you are from Oregon would you be interested in a forum of your own here in the Oregon cubit? You could talk about what is happening in your neck of the woods or anything that your interested in. Ears perked up!
ImageMaryE
Mar 8, 2011 10:33 AM CST
Name: Mary
The dry side of Oregon
Be yourself, you can be no one else
Count me in!

Spring is just around the corner. My neighbor's sheep have started having their lambs. Things will get busy now as today is the official due date. I expect to get the call to start checking them tonight or tomorrow night as I do the midnight midwife job every year.

The weather is not ideal for being born out in the field, but despite that, it is still the best place. Yestereday was sunny but cold and windy, this morning it's snowing sideways and the ground is covered again.

I'll mark this thread to keep watching it.
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ImagePatti1957
Mar 8, 2011 1:20 PM CST
Name: Patti
Eagle Point, OR
I would love to know more about the lambs and what you do as their "midwife"
ImageMaryE
Mar 8, 2011 6:45 PM CST
Name: Mary
The dry side of Oregon
Be yourself, you can be no one else
Mostly I walk or take the lambmobile (picture later, when I have time to find it) looking for newborns, or ewes in obvious labor. Newborns get a ride to the barn in the cart part of the lambmobile, with mom following. They are put into a small pen with nice fluffy straw bedding, where they can bond, and I record the information which includes the pen #, ewes eartag #, sex and number of lambs, physical descriptions, note any problems, and put iodine on the lamb's navels. I try to watch to make sure the ewe is feeding them. Then I go out again to bring in others. Sometimes I have to bring the whole flock to the barn and sort out one animal that is having problems. Occasionally I need to reach inside and straighten a leg so a lamb can be born. Yeah, they can get stuck!

We have a warming barrel for chilled ones. Now and then a lamb will be so chilled it needs a warm water warm up, and tube feeding with colosturn. Some are so chilled they can't stand to be fed, so we have to stick a tube down their throat and pump food into their stomachs. It helps warm them and gives them energy. Sheep milk is about 20% fat, so it is a quick way to revive a lamb. Usually after one or two tube feedings the lamb can stand to nurse, so it goes back into the little pen with mommy and siblings. Twins are the norm, triplets happen less frequently, quads maybe once a year per 100 ewes, and about 1/4 of the flock will only have a single lamb in any given year.

More about all of this as it happens. I'll type it up, then copy and post it in several places on the internet. I'm always surprised at how many people want to read the current year's lamb tales.
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ImageHappyJackMom
Mar 8, 2011 7:28 PM CST
Name: Donna Yates
Happy Jack, AZ - Zone 5a
Mary, I have a question. If goats milk is 20% milk fat, what is ewe's milk? I don't live in Oregon, though I wouldn't mind living there, but too old to move now. My Ancestors were the idiots that listened to Steven Meek and got lost in the desert South of Bend in 1845, so my roots go way back to Oregon. Now the new Bend golf course carries my maiden name. Rolling on the floor laughing Everytime I Google Tetherow, guess what pops up first? Angry
ImageMaryE
Mar 8, 2011 9:03 PM CST
Name: Mary
The dry side of Oregon
Be yourself, you can be no one else
Goat's milk has about the same fat content as cow's milk. We can use it to bottle feed orphan lambs, but they do not do as well as on sheep milk. Goats are definitely easier to milk! Read above again, I did say sheep milk is 20% fat.

Funny, I used to live in Bend, 1985-93. Some of my endurance rides followed the trails of the lost wagon train. Have you read the book about it? It's called The Terrible Trail. Meek was a scounrel. Did all of your family survive?
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ImagePatti1957
Mar 8, 2011 11:12 PM CST
Name: Patti
Eagle Point, OR
Mary, I love reading about the lambing process, thanks for sharing with us.

I could change the title of this thread to Mary Had A Little Lamb? I bet you have gotten that before. Sorry I couldn't help myself *Blush*
ImageHappyJackMom
Mar 9, 2011 11:22 AM CST
Name: Donna Yates
Happy Jack, AZ - Zone 5a
Yes, I have the book, The Terrible Trail. My G-G-Grandfather David Tetherow was a younger brother to the wagon master, Solomon Tetherow. Solomon became famous and David died Sep 1846 a few months after arriving in Oregon. But he got all his family to Oregon, which must have been quite a feat to say the least. He apparently had been wounded in the Black Hawk War, and died of "black leg," which I believe was probably Gangrene. He was only 41. I might add, if I remember right, that the Cooley's (Cooley's Iris Gardens) ancestors also came across in the same group.

If you have read The Terrible Trail, you will probably remember the tail of the "Blue Bucket Mine." A dry river bed where a child filled her bucket with pretty yellow rocks and brought them back to the wagons. Well, of course the men, thought right away, that it was gold and tried to pound a nugget out on a wagon wheel. Solomon convinced the group that it wasn't gold, and the wagon train continued on. When the starving people made it to the Deschutes River, they used the rocks as sinkers. Now, IF my Mom's side of our family had ever heard that story, they would have laughed their heads off, as they were gold miners!

I believe it was gold, and Solomon & David knew what those 'yellow rocks' were. Many of those on the train were farmers and business men, but they should have known what gold looked like, as that was a standard of legal tender back in 1845. I think that since the people, animals and wagons were in such bad shape from being lost in the desert, Solomon didn't want them to get "Gold Fever" and abandon the wagon train. If that had of happened, all would have been lost.

By the way, the name Blue Bucket Mine refers to the color of the little child's bucket. So imagine, a small bucket full of gold hung on the side of a bouncing wagon crossing the southern desert land of Oregon. Hundreds have tried to find that stream bed, but as far as anyone knows, it has never been found.

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ImageMaryE
Mar 9, 2011 12:38 PM CST
Name: Mary
The dry side of Oregon
Be yourself, you can be no one else
Ah, yes, the Blue Bucket Mine. People are still looking for it.

The book, when it was first published, produced a lot of people who had some relative's old stuff in a trunk somewhere or remembered stories from somebody who was on the fateful trip. A second edition was published which is more complete than the first one. I recieved the book as an award for completing all 5 days of the ride which followed the trails. We started from Vale, Oregon, and finished near Bend. We took it 50 miles per day, riding point to point. Our trailers were moved to the new campsite while we rode, and the next day we would start from there. Each evening at the ride meeting the ride manager would read parts of the book that covered our next day's journey.
Of all the things I've lost, I miss my mind the most.
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ImageHappyJackMom
Mar 9, 2011 9:32 PM CST
Name: Donna Yates
Happy Jack, AZ - Zone 5a
Oh how wonderful! That would have been the ride of my life, to have been able to follow the trail of my ancestors. My book is the original, I never got the newer version. Sad
Imagedahlianut
Mar 28, 2011 11:05 AM CST
Name: Dahlianut
Calgary, AB Zone 3a
Hi all I tip my hat to you. I just joined this luvly cubit cuz Oregon is such a luvly state. I used to road trip to and through Oregon when I lived in Vancouver BC.
ImagePatti1957
Mar 28, 2011 11:28 AM CST
Name: Patti
Eagle Point, OR
Hi Dahlianut! Good to see you here.

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