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Imagemekos
Oct 27, 2011 1:37 PM CST
Name: Jan - INKY'S PAL Charleys Girl
NEWBEE CHAT & HELP LINE
I'm a Charley's girl and loving it!
we came from here http://cubits.org/Theseedtraderscubit/thread/view/62767/

Thumb of 2011-10-27/mekos/bbdde8 Chapter 12 The call of Abram
1. Now the Lord said unto Abram, Get thee out of thy country, and from thy kindred and from thy fathers house unto a land that I will show thee.
2. And I will make of thee a great nation, and I will bless thee, and make thy name great, and thou shalt be a blessing.
3. And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all the families of the earth be blessed.
4. So Abram departed, as the Lord had spoken unto him; and Lot went with him: And Abram was seventy and five years old when he departed out of Haran.
5. And Abram took Sarai his wife, and lot, his brother's son and all their substance that they had gathered, and the souls that they had gotten in Haran, and they went forth to go into the land of Canaan; and into the land of Canaan they came.
6. And Abram passed through the land into the place of Sichem, unto the plain of Moreh. And the Canaanite was then in the land.
7. And the lord appeared unto Abram, and said, Unto thy seed will I give this land: and there builded he an altar unto the Lord, who had appeared unto him.
8. And he removed from thence unto a mountain on the east of Bethel and pitched his tent, having Bethel on the west, and Hai on the east, and there he builded an altar unto the Lord, and called upon the name of the Lord.
9. And Abram journeyed, going on still toward the south.
Imagenap
Oct 27, 2011 2:51 PM CST
Name: Nancy
Buffalo NY
Welcome Home, Mekos. Lovey dubby Group hug
Imagemarsue
Oct 27, 2011 3:32 PM CST
Name: Marilyn (Mau)
South-central Missouri-in the
Zone 6b
Samantha: I googled the words "chronological Bible" and several websites came up that sell these Bibles. They are available in several different versions, including the New King James Version, the English Standard Version and the New Living Translation. If you type in those words into your search engine you can find the websites, too. I am not recommending any particular version of these chronological Bibles because I have not seen them and know nothing about them. I just wanted you to know that they are available. Again, I would recommend that if you get one, you keep it on hand to use alongside of your regular Bible. Just a suggestion.

Back to the Bible study. Did any of you notice that in chapter 11, verse 4 they said: "And they said, Go to, let us build us a city and a tower, whose top [may reach] unto heaven; and let us make us a name, lest we be scattered abroad upon the face of the whole earth."

BUT GOD in verse 8 did this: "So the LORD scattered them abroad from thence upon the face of all the earth: and they left off to build the city."

The Lord did to them exactly what they were trying to avoid! Every time we humans think we are in control, God will show us differently!

Also, if I am reading it correctly, Nahor was married to his niece, Milcah. verse29

It didn't seem to be all that unusual in those days for family members to intermarry. Also, if I am not mistaken, Sarah and Abraham were half-brother and sister although it doesn't say that in these verses. We'll come to that later.

ImageDebbie
Oct 28, 2011 2:42 AM CST
Name: Debbie
Denham Springs, La zone 8b
Thanks again so much Jan for posting the scriptures. And thanks too for stopping at verse 9 til we catch up. I'm so glad you are back. Lovey dubby

Marilyn , I copy/pasted your post above on the previous thread as well. Hope that was ok.
Imagemarsue
Oct 28, 2011 4:08 AM CST
Name: Marilyn (Mau)
South-central Missouri-in the
Zone 6b
Sure, Debbie! Smiling I guess I got a little ahead--thinking we were supposed to come over to this thread to discuss Chapter 11.
ImageDebbie
Oct 28, 2011 10:46 AM CST
Name: Debbie
Denham Springs, La zone 8b
You were supposed to. But I like what you said, so I borrowed it over. I appreciate you so much Marilyn.
ImageDebbie
Oct 28, 2011 10:06 PM CST
Name: Debbie
Denham Springs, La zone 8b
Ok, I'm here. Where did everyone go? Hurray!
ImageAudrey
Oct 29, 2011 12:29 PM CST
Name: Audrey---Doe 41--- Warren
South East Missouri
I'm a Charlie's girl, too!
I'm here.
Imagefinerliners
Oct 29, 2011 4:21 PM CST
Name: Samantha Flowers
Jesup, Ga.

Lovey dubby Hurray!
ImageRidesredmule
Oct 29, 2011 5:14 PM CST
Name: Charleen
Barnesville, Ga. Zone 7b-8
Walk in Peace / I'm Charley's Mom.
Me too!!!Thumb of 2011-10-29/Ridesredmule/af693c
ImageDebbie
Oct 29, 2011 7:47 PM CST
Name: Debbie
Denham Springs, La zone 8b
Hurray! Oh, I'm so happy to see you all here. Lovey dubby thank you all so much. Weekends are usually a little slow, so if ya'll want to read and study up on chapter 12, that would be great. So we can have some awesome discussions and questions Monday. Group hug
Imagemekos
Oct 30, 2011 1:53 PM CST
Name: Jan - INKY'S PAL Charleys Girl
NEWBEE CHAT & HELP LINE
I'm a Charley's girl and loving it!
Thumb of 2011-10-30/mekos/f2c613 Sitting on the edge of my seat waiting for Monday to roll around. Hurray!
Imagemarsue
Oct 30, 2011 2:29 PM CST
Name: Marilyn (Mau)
South-central Missouri-in the
Zone 6b
I'm here, too, and waiting for Monday. We had an all-day family birthday party yesterday for four of our family members who had birthdays in Sept. and Oct. We "save them up" and celebrate them in "bunches". Thumbs up Hurray!
ImageDebbie
Oct 30, 2011 9:44 PM CST
Name: Debbie
Denham Springs, La zone 8b
Love you Jan, and I just love all of your photos. They are so inspiring.

That's a good way to do it Marilyn. I'm so happy you all had a good time. And yes, I'm excited about starting the study again tomorrow as well. Please, everyone participate, cause it makes it so much more interesting. Thanks and love to you all,

See ya'll tomorrow
Debbie
ImageDebbie
Oct 31, 2011 1:25 AM CST
Name: Debbie
Denham Springs, La zone 8b
Sorry, I'm going to back up just a little to Chapter 11

31And Terah took Abram his son, and Lot the son of Haran his son's son, and Sarai his daughter in law, his son Abram's wife; and they went forth with them from Ur of the Chaldees, to go into the land of Canaan; and they came unto Haran, and dwelt there.32And the days of Terah were two hundred and five years: and Terah died in Haran.

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This is the entire map of Abraham's travels. ......................................................Terah and his family's journey from Ur to Haran, where Abrahams Father (Terah) died.


Chapter 12 The call of Abram
1. Now the Lord said unto Abram, Get thee out of thy country, and from thy kindred and from thy fathers house unto a land that I will show thee.
2. And I will make of thee a great nation, and I will bless thee, and make thy name great, and thou shalt be a blessing.
3. And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all the families of the earth be blessed.
4. So Abram departed, as the Lord had spoken unto him; and Lot went with him: And Abram was seventy and five years old when he departed out of Haran.

5. And Abram took Sarai his wife, and lot, his brother's son and all their substance that they had gathered, and the souls that they had gotten in Haran, and they went forth to go into the land of Canaan; and into the land of Canaan they came.
Thumb of 2011-10-31/Debbie/d9f101
6. And Abram passed through the land into the place of Sichem, unto the plain of Moreh. And the Canaanite was then in the land.

7. And the Lord appeared unto Abram, and said, Unto thy seed will I give this land:
Thumb of 2011-10-31/Debbie/48e1f6
and there builded he an altar unto the Lord, who had appeared unto him.

8. And he removed from thence unto a mountain on the east of Bethel and pitched his tent, having Bethel on the west, and Hai on the east, and there he builded an altar unto the Lord, and called upon the name of the Lord.
9. And Abram journeyed, going on still toward the south.

Ok now, discussions and questions please. I will be back later in the day to participate. Got to get some sleep for a while.:)
Imagemarsue
Oct 31, 2011 8:55 AM CST
Name: Marilyn (Mau)
South-central Missouri-in the
Zone 6b
Thanks for those maps, Debbie! To me, it is easier to understand the journey if I can see a map showing which way they travelled. I looked at a map of the present-day Middle Eastern countries and this is how I interpret their journey: They started in the lower part of what is present-day Iraq and journeyed up and across what is present-day Syria and then came down through what would be present-day Lebanon and on into the territory belonging to present-day Israel. Is that the way the rest of you see it? Of course it would have been a much shorter journey to go across the Arabian Desert but that certainly wouldn't have been practical. I am sure they travelled the major routes of that day, which would explain why they took the "long way around", so to speak.
Can you imagine what it would have been like to travel with that many people and taking "all their substance" with them? (verse 5)
They evidently picked up quite a few "souls" along the way (the souls they had gotten in Haran--verse5) or either a lot of babies were born on the journey. That must have been a very long caravan! I wonder how long it took them to reach their destination?

Notice that the Lord said to Abram, "Unto thy seed will I give this land" (verse 7) and that was before Abraham had produced any "seed", namely Isaac! What a promise!
ImageDebbie
Nov 1, 2011 1:32 PM CST
Name: Debbie
Denham Springs, La zone 8b
LOL, was it the pictures that caused ya'll to stop posting? I have been extremely ill with this bug that is going around. I was hoping to come back to a lot of good discussion, but except for Marilyn (thank you ), no one has posted. What's happening? Hope none of you are sick. I'll check back tomorrow.
Imagefinerliners
Nov 1, 2011 6:00 PM CST
Name: Samantha Flowers
Jesup, Ga.

I am here just lurking due to work. STill interesting!
ImageSamigal
Nov 1, 2011 11:30 PM CST
Name: Pegi Putnam
Norwalk, Ca. zone 10b
I am still here lurking around. I get confused a lot with all of this and learning a lot I never knew before. Even if I don't post I'm always reading.
Life is fragile, handle with prayer.
Imagemarsue
Nov 2, 2011 3:58 AM CST
Name: Marilyn (Mau)
South-central Missouri-in the
Zone 6b
I was wondering the same thing, Debbie! LOL (and, by the way, so sorry to hear you have been "under the weather". Feel better soon!)

Maybe some passages just don't inspire as much discussion as others, for whatever reason. As I said above, the maps help me to have a visual in my mind of where they travelled. It also makes me stop and think how hard a journey like that must have been, especially travelling with all those people. Can you imagine the number of camels, etc., they must have required to carry tents, supplies, food for all those people? No wonder it took them a long time to go from one place to another! It's mind-boggling, almost, when you really stop to think about the logistics of that kind of move.

More importantly, though, are the spiritual aspects of what the Lord told Abraham to do. He had to move away from his extended family and everything with which he was familiar and go to a land he had never seen. Now that requires real faith and trust in the Lord!

Do you realize there are people in this day and age that do that very thing? How many people in recent times have moved their families to a distant land in order to fulfill the call of God on their lives and take the gospel of Jesus Christ to those who may never have heard it? When you think of all the missionaries there are world-wide who have done that very thing, it does make you stop and reflect on the personal sacrifice required to do that, not to mention the absolute trust in God! I tip my hat to you.

For those of us who aren't called to go abroad, we can still have a part in the "great commission" by the giving of our tithes and offerings to help send those who are called. We can also tell those who are brought into our sphere of influence about the Lord. There are missionary opportunities right where each of us live! Hurray!

Well, now, it sounds like I am "preaching"! Sorry if I got off topic for a minute! Smiling

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