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CLUSIANA
Oct 10, 2011 4:03 PM CST
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No idea. Very busy for a while.
Janet I did realise that I have may be messed around posting in the wrong place. Where do you wish to put them only here? Pls let me know and promiss I will not
post in the wrong place in the future..
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ImageJRsbugs
Oct 10, 2011 4:50 PM CST
Name: Janet
Near Lincoln UK
It doesn't really matter if you posted in the daily thread C., you can start a new thread for your identifications if you wish in the Bug Pics & ID forum. To do that, scroll to the bottom of all threads where you can put a title in the top box, then your post as you would normally. You might find this preferrable so you can keep all your posts in the one place but I'm easy. Smiling

I recognise the type of fly you have, it's similar to Phasia hemiptera in Tachinidae which is one I have.

Phasia aurigera looks the best bet, it seems to be variable..

http://www.diptera.info/search.php?stext=Phasia aurigera&sea...

http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&cp=15&gs_id=2&xhr=t&q=p...

In Phasia both males and female have big eyes which meet in the middle, but we can see the other end of yours! Hilarious!

Give me a minute and I will move your post for you to a thread of your own..

You now have a spider in the listing!
CLUSIANA
Oct 10, 2011 1:40 PM CST
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Cupido Minimus ?
ImageJRsbugs
Oct 10, 2011 2:43 PM CST
Name: Janet
Near Lincoln UK
I was about to think it must be Cupido minimus, I was finding some variation in that species. I then found Cupido alcetas, perfect match! Big Grin

http://www.treknature.com/gallery/Europe/France/photo65740.h...

http://www.butterfliesofbulgaria.com/cupalc.html

Provençal Short-tailed Blue

http://www.eurobutterflies.com/species_pages/alcetas.htm

Beautiful shots. Smiling
CLUSIANA
Oct 10, 2011 2:46 PM CST
Thank you Janet. i do not have your giant wings but hope mine will grow..
ImageJRsbugs
Oct 10, 2011 2:48 PM CST
Name: Janet
Near Lincoln UK
I just added another link to my last post.

My wings have been flapping for longer than yours, keep flapping and they will expand. Hilarious!
CLUSIANA
Oct 10, 2011 2:56 PM CST
Amazing links Janet. I really begin to love it without headackes!
Thank you.
CLUSIANA
Oct 10, 2011 3:01 PM CST
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Polygonia c-album ?
ImageJRsbugs
Oct 10, 2011 3:06 PM CST
Name: Janet
Near Lincoln UK
You got it! Big Grin
CLUSIANA
Oct 10, 2011 3:15 PM CST
As you like praying manthis this is to thank you Janet

and I have plenty for which i have no idea..inmy tricky bag.


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Mantis religiosa (first row male, second one female)



ImageJRsbugs
Oct 10, 2011 5:33 PM CST
Name: Janet
Near Lincoln UK
Thank you C.! Such handsome fellows! Hilarious! You got some great shots of them!

I'd love to be able to name them but I don't think it's possible. Oh I see you have put a name to them, great!

We all have tricky bags. Hilarious!
CLUSIANA
Oct 11, 2011 12:24 AM CST
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Vespula vulgaris ?

ImageJRsbugs
Oct 11, 2011 4:37 AM CST
Name: Janet
Near Lincoln UK
Lovely shots C! It's not a Vespula species, and I don't think it's one we have here (not so exotic in this cold climate. Rolling my eyes. ).

I think I have a good idea where to look for it.. I'll see if I can find it or at least something similar.
CLUSIANA
Oct 11, 2011 5:22 AM CST
Can you believe Janet that I could not find much first for the difference between vespula and apis and this one seems to be named either an apis, either a vespula. Thank you for looking as I did not find much information about it.
ImageJRsbugs
Oct 11, 2011 5:32 AM CST
Name: Janet
Near Lincoln UK
I think I have found it, or close. Sceliphron spirifex, some have all black antennae, others with yellow at the base like yours. It could be the differences in sex or just a variable feature.

http://www.orchidee-poitou-charentes.org/article1184.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sceliphron_spirifex

I found on a French forum some key points, this is the translation but you will be able to read it in French..

Quoting:Will require that I complete the illustrated key that is here
Indeed, I had not considered s. madraspatanum tubifex, very rare that most were captured in France since very long. (the key made from the description, not of my boxes is false, as this species generally has traces of yellow more or less marked on the propodeum) that can evoke a caementarium yellow petiole.
Its resemblance to caementarium does not stop there: it was also of the yellow on the Redtail, the scutellum, and the métanotum.
There is also a yellow spot stretched down, extending the scutellar lobe yellow spot.
However, the gastre is always entirely black and yellow petiole. (In caementarium petiole is black, although the possibility of yellow petiole is described).
The scape is black in madraspatanum tubifex, yellow in caementarium.
Hair varies from Brown to black in caementarium, and whitish to yellowish grey in m.t


http://www.insecte.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=69297&sid=b...

Reading and translating more replies, it would appear to be Sceliphron caementarium ..

http://www.galerie-insecte.org/galerie/ref-57106.htm

But, as the further replies state:

Quoting:But precisely in the key 3 of the mandraspatanum femur is marked as black as that of the caementarium. Is it to change in the key as I understand it?
The caementarium yellow petiole of the gallery must be the one above?
http://www.Galerie-insecte.org/Galerie/ref-57106.htm
The petiole has still the black extreme unlike the spirifex all yellow.


Quoting:If you are talking about the key that is on the forum: thanks to you, I find that it is false or the less not enough precise for this species that I had a little neglected at the time, because it is exceptional in France.
In caementarium, the femur is entirely black, the trochanter is black.
In madraspatanum, the femur is overall black except the base which is yellow, and the trochanter.


This is very confusing, as the hind femur on yours is mostly yellow with black trochanter (the part joining the femur to the body).

At best I can say it's a Sceliphron species! Hilarious!
ImageJRsbugs
Oct 11, 2011 5:40 AM CST
Name: Janet
Near Lincoln UK
Well blow me down! I searched again using just 'Sceliphron' and the suggestion box this time showed Sceliphron destillatorium, a perfect match!! Big Grin

http://www.flickr.com/photos/santidd/3928720484/

There's a photo on Galerie-insecte.org showing the key points..

http://www.galerie-insecte.org/galerie/sceliphron_destillato...

CLUSIANA
Oct 11, 2011 7:48 AM CST
i have to look this up Janet. You are fantastic and amazing me all the times. Even in French I do not know a lot of words about bugs. Wow. I am so hapy. Thank you. What a work!;
Did you see that? The first picture turned into thumb! Would you pls tell Dave (I will not be the only one to comaplain...)
ImageJRsbugs
Oct 11, 2011 8:09 AM CST
Name: Janet
Near Lincoln UK
Words for bugs come with learning, it's not easy to get your head around everything at once.

The first picture is showing for me, the same as the others are. I wonder if it's an issue with you computer? Have you cleared your cookies lately? There could be a cached version of when there were problems with thumbnails which is causing this. I know we had problems some time ago but Dave fixed it so try clearing your cookies. If you need help with that I will tell you where to do it. Smiling
beech
Oct 11, 2011 8:55 AM CST
Great pics Clusiana particularly liked the Sceliphron destillatorium Smiling
CLUSIANA
Oct 11, 2011 9:01 AM CST
Thank you everyone. The pics is showing back Janet. Thank you.

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