Article: Beyond Maguk ? ........... "Piccaniny Holes".: Wow!
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| Your articles almost take me there. How beautiful. Thank you for sharing again. *********************************************************** Sharon, you've been travelling well keeping up with me. I've got some more hikes coming up that you should enjoy as well. TB |
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 ********************************************* Lee Anne, likewise, you're a real stayer. TB |
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| Wonderful vicarious hike. The rock pools are so inviting. This is working out great for me since I don't hike well but wish I did! Thanks for a trip to a place I would otherwise never see! I will keep your secret! ********************************************************************************************************* Kathy, another secret: when I can't do it physically I become a vicarious hiker, it's the thought that counts. Especially then. TB |
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Tremendous articles with such beautiful scenery. I enjoyed viewing them all. ****************************************************** Rachel, great that you could join us on the walk. TB |
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LOVE your articles, ZIG...keep 'em coming!!!  ********************************************************************************************************* Carol, there's more coming. Both for uploading here, and for actually doing. I believe in the old saying, "Adventure before dementia". TB Leap. The net will appear. |
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| I loved the virtual hike. My gosh, you have some beautiful country! I don't want to start any negative discussion here, but I have to ask: Is there no negative connotation to the word 'piccaniny' in Australia? Here it is widely viewed to be a racial slur aimed at black children. A former Arizona governor was pilloried in the press for using the word. The poor man was impeached from office for that and other unfortunate comments he made. And, btw, I'd so love to dip in those pools.  ****************************************************************************************************** Alma, good comment. I believe the term piccaniny derives from Portuguese and was used to refer to Black babies/small children. It got into the Kriol (our local creole) here but never seemed to have any negative connotations. Aboriginal people, when speaking Kriol instead of the local languages, seemed to use the term for any young children, White or Black. Although the term now seems to have become archaic, even for Kriol. The elderly might use the term now but you don't seem to hear it from most of the younger speakers. It's probably context that has more significance than just use of the word per se. You mentioned that govenor making other comments as well. Perhaps in the totally of what he said he was being racist and that was what they got him on. I guess it's a matter of fine lines. TB Alma In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock. – Thomas Jefferson |
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| I wondered too. ********************************* Kathy, see the note to Alma. TB |
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| I loved the trip! At least I escaped the cold and rain we are having for a short time in cyber space. What time of year was this journey? I know you can have 30C+ in winter at the top end, that sort of heat can be difficult to handle all the time. Did anyone else notice the pretty little ants in photo #30 with fern and moss? They are yellow with green abdomens! Now I need to see if I can find which ants are present there, I bet there's more than that species. ****************************************************************** Janet, I know how you Poms suffer sun and warmth deprivation, LOL. You're always welcome to join us on any of these hikes to get that chill out of your bones. This walk was in late August. Days would have been in the high 30's (close to the old 100F). Because the temperatures vary so little you do get used to them, spoilt in fact. I forgot to include those ants in the comment by accident. They are Oecophylla smaragdina, Green Tree Ants. But occuring throughout south east Asia, Indonesia and northern Australia they have different common names in different places. TB |
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| Just thought I would add an explanation of the term picaninny from Wiki, mankind has changed the use of the word for various reasons and with the present political correctness all uses will be looked upon as taboo. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pickaninny The name has already been given to the 'holes' probably because of their relatively small size, it's a shame man can turn a word into something negative but in some instances there will have been negativity with the word being used in a derogative way. I do know that Australia had moved on from historical beginnings many years ago, the Aborigines have been given at least equal status with some job allocations being for Aborigines alone. That in itself may have caused some problems concerning equal rights, but maybe they needed that extra chance considering the disadvantages. History has happened all over the world, no one country is exempt from that, and there was a period in recent years where the indigenous peoples were gaining recognition of their intrinsic rights. Those who have inhabited a land since year dot can have a claim to those rights, others who have been part of mass movements as a result of immigration and wars have no claims to any such rights and this has been happening for centuries. We are all part of mankind, and apparently all out of Africa in the first place. It has been thought the Aborigines of Australia were a group of people who made their way along the coast, down through Indonesia with island hopping to Australia. Peoples, we are one. ******************************************************************** Janet, it's definitely a whole topic on its own. Most of the world is moving on. But there'll always be those who prefer the old order with their position of 'superiority' in it and have to be dragged kicking and screaming into the new world. TB |
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JRsbugs wrote:I loved the trip! At least I escaped the cold and rain we are having for a short time in cyber space. Lol, you're talking to an Aussie in Pommie land. My bones are well frozen by now, but they say that cold preserves the brain. We had the hottest year on record in 2006, with temps. up to around 36C! Then two years of dull, cold summers followed! I must admit I got used to it, the humidity here is normally very high when cold and can be 100% but in that hot summer it was still close to 50% so it didn't feel too bad. Thanks for the name of the ants! ***************************************************************************************************** Janet, my apologies. I just assumed. So, how long is your sentence of transportation for? Will they release you early for good behaviour? LOL. I didn't spend a lot of time over there on my "working holiday" in my reckless youth. Really only London and Oxford. TB |
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| Janet, I think political correctness has been taken to extremes in many countries. I just wondered how Piccaniny Holes managed to survive as a name in Australia. Politicians changed the name of a well-known hiking peak here from Squaw Peak to the name of a Native American female soldier killed in the first few days of the Iraq invasion. Go figure. ******************************************************************************************************* Alma, as I mentioned before, the term was never really used in a derogatory manner here. One of our famous geographical sites is called "Piccaninny Gorge" (in Western Australia). There's never been any question or controversy about that name. Another expression here is "piccaniny daylight', which is commonly used without any controversy. I guess it's historical and how words are used. Like the swastika which was historically a symbol for good luck but now is associated with evil. TB Alma In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock. – Thomas Jefferson |
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| I loved seeing your hike---your pictures were beautiful. It's such a rugged yet lovely area. When you mentioned the crocodiles, I wondered if you have to look out for snakes or other dangerous critters too. ********************************************** Val, glad you enjoyed them. There's few animals which are predators on humans, crocs being one. So a bit of self education and common sense would see you through without any problems. TB |
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| TB, I think you're very fortunate not to be bogged down with such PC. Does anyone still live in this beautiful area? ***************************************************************************************************** Alma, because this area is quite remote, people have moved out to towns and less remote settlements. Everyone seems to like what modern life can provide. TB Alma In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock. – Thomas Jefferson |
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