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Imagearejay59
Oct 18, 2010 2:40 AM CST
Name: Arejay aka Robin Brann
Maine
4th Annual Iris Sale going on now!
We came from here http://cubits.org/communitygardening/thread/view/34329/ Recipes listed here http://cubits.org/communitygardening/thread/view/36392/
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Imagewildflowers
Oct 18, 2010 6:43 AM CST
Name: Christine
Northeast Texas, Zone 7b
All of the seasons have their own beauty, I love them all!!! So when does the snow start there Robin?

The leaves are just starting to change color here. The berries of this sumac makes a nice refreshing lemonade tasting summer drink; and the berries can be ground up and used in cooking. I've harvested some of the seeds but haven't used them yet....
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Imagearejay59
Oct 18, 2010 8:11 AM CST
Name: Arejay aka Robin Brann
Maine
4th Annual Iris Sale going on now!
No Kidding I am always afraid to try sumac, I dont know the difference between the good one and the bad one Confused
Imagearejay59
Oct 18, 2010 8:28 AM CST
Name: Arejay aka Robin Brann
Maine
4th Annual Iris Sale going on now!
Oh SOrry Christine the snow could come any time now!! Thumb of 2010-10-18/arejay59/6b2310
ImageJaeRae
Oct 18, 2010 9:19 AM CST
Name: Jamie R
Zone 5, WI
save the rainforest & habitat
Ah but Robin....at least you still have leaves on the trees...guess where all mine are??? Strange year this year, we usually have color much longer (through Oct) until they come down but this year??? It was REALLY hot and wet early, then got even some frost a couple of weeks ago. I still have green tomatoes on the vines but the grapes and roses are done...even asters. The only thing I have still blooming is mums and they are stalky and thin (not bushy as they typically are). All the plants are confused. The acorn production is massive (I've never seen so many, I can actually carry them off in a wheelbarrow and I have been because twice now I have rolled and fallen on them just workinjg in the yard) but not black walnut or hickory nuts. It's usually the other way around. And my biggest pine cone producer hardly had any at all. The maples typically turn slowly and provide different color tones through the windows for a month or better. They turned fast, never got very bright and dropped leaves almost right away. i think this is going to be one snowy winter here!

Thanks for the beautiful pictures. Maine is so lovely. How far are you from Kennebunk?
Woman on the eastbound train
...........................................Je Suis Désolé.
(also a mule lovin', Charley huggin' girl)
Imagewildflowers
Oct 18, 2010 9:45 AM CST
Name: Christine
Northeast Texas, Zone 7b
Bundle up time for you!!! brrrrrr.... but I love a nice fire in the fireplace Lovey dubby

I think that's a common thing about the sumac, but they really are very different ~ the poisonous sumac, Toxicodendron vernix actually has white berries! which makes it easier to identify.

This is fruit of Smooth Sumac, Rhus glabra, edible and is actually used as a natural healing herb. It's been used in middle east for ages in cooking, where they make a spice blend using sumac, thyme, and sesame seeds called Zatar or Zahtar, which I would like to try.

Fruit/seed clusters growing
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Ripe fruit ready for picking
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**I apologize to anyone who may have posted ahead of me.... it took FOREVER to upload pictures!!
Whistling
ImageJaeRae
Oct 18, 2010 9:56 AM CST
Name: Jamie R
Zone 5, WI
save the rainforest & habitat
Actually the sumac thing is interesting (Nice pictures Christine). When I was 8 or so, I went to a summer camp and they let us eat sumac on the trails. I really LIKED it, it was plesantly citris-y. When I got home mother was horrified...she thought all of it was poisonous. She scared me enough that even though I know some varieties are not, I never learned to discriminate and haven't eaten it since. Are you sure all red sumac is okay?
Woman on the eastbound train
...........................................Je Suis Désolé.
(also a mule lovin', Charley huggin' girl)
Imagewildflowers
Oct 18, 2010 10:00 AM CST
Name: Christine
Northeast Texas, Zone 7b
Well... I am sure that the poisonous sumac has white berries...... Blinking

here's a website that talks about all the edible sumacs:
http://www.herbcompanion.com/health/natural-healing-snack-on...
ImageSeray
Oct 18, 2010 10:01 AM CST
Name: Sherri
Coastal GA
I love sumac tea! My grandparents though I was going to drop dead when I made it at their house. They always believed it was poisonous. They wouldn't drink it even after I survived. Rolling on the floor laughing Thanks for showing the pics Christine I don't see it too much here. Lovey dubby The tea always reminded me of Red Zinger. Do you have a recipe for the Zatar? It sounds like it would make a nice rub.

Fall pics are beautiful Robin! Keep them coming! Hurray! Lovey dubby
Imagewildflowers
Oct 18, 2010 10:06 AM CST
Name: Christine
Northeast Texas, Zone 7b
I'm gonna try the Zatar and I will post a recipe Thumbs up I love it's tangy citrus flavor too!~
ImageRidesredmule
Oct 18, 2010 10:13 AM CST
Name: Charleen
Barnesville, Ga. Zone 7b-8
Walk in Peace / I'm Charley's Mom.
Love the fall pictures Arejay. Beautiful.
G'day everyone.
Imagestormyla
Oct 18, 2010 10:57 AM CST
Name: Stormy
Valley Forge Pa
I Love MAM ~ So Happy Together
I love the photos and everything you all are talking about on this thread. Just Saturday I took a ride looking for some fall color and it hasn't arrived yet, just a touch here or there. I'm with Jae on thinking this has been one strange year. Leaves are just starting to drop, but they are dropping still green. It's only this past week that it's gotten cool enough for a sweater, and that has been pretty much only in the mornings and evenings.
Imagewildflowers
Oct 18, 2010 12:50 PM CST
Name: Christine
Northeast Texas, Zone 7b
Even down here in tx it's strange how everything is still so green... last year at this time the trees were all wearing their fall colors. Today was the first day I saw some leaves fall when the wind picked up.
Imagearejay59
Oct 18, 2010 4:21 PM CST
Name: Arejay aka Robin Brann
Maine
4th Annual Iris Sale going on now!
Funny you say that girls last year I said that the season was wwway off the trees never really changed colors. It was strange everything seems to be closer to back to normal here. We had an ice storm back in I think 99 maybe nothing has been the same since. I saw a recipe on that link you posted I think Christine...I will have to put sumac on my find list with mullein
Imagewildflowers
Oct 18, 2010 5:11 PM CST
Name: Christine
Northeast Texas, Zone 7b
I'll look for some babies for you Robin. The sumac does shoot off little baby plants so I will see what I can find to send you. I also have lots of seeds but I don't know how easy it is to grow from seed Confused
Imagearejay59
Oct 18, 2010 5:47 PM CST
Name: Arejay aka Robin Brann
Maine
4th Annual Iris Sale going on now!
I think they probably root easily...I am going out of the driveway tomorrow Rolling on the floor laughing Rolling on the floor laughing Rolling on the floor laughing I will let you know what I find...Its the Mullein I am having trouble harvesting...It also makes a great tea...
Imagewildflowers
Oct 19, 2010 4:01 AM CST
Name: Christine
Northeast Texas, Zone 7b
Oh... arejay, you already have it growing there, you just need to find it outside Rolling my eyes. yeah easy if you can get them far enough along the root, the babies will grow off the mother plant rhizome.
mekos
Oct 19, 2010 7:26 PM CST
Name: Jan - INKY'S PAL Charleys Girl
NEWBEE CHAT & HELP LINE
I'm a Charley's girl and loving it!
Arejay, did you know you can make tea out of Globe Amaranth (Gomphrena ) blooms?
http://herbalmagickinc.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&...
I was going through my seeds getting some ready for the piggy swap and read up on these to see what they might be useful for. Thought you might like them.
I wasn't planning to list them in the swap since I didn't figure they would be wanted, but when I googled them and found you make tea with it and it cures lots of body problems, I thought you might like some of it.
Imagearejay59
Oct 19, 2010 7:28 PM CST
Name: Arejay aka Robin Brann
Maine
4th Annual Iris Sale going on now!
Yes!! Did you try them? I love my herbal teas!! Have you tried the lemon balm tea yet? Add a couple of sprigs of Hyssops or mint yummy and relaxing...and use you stevia to sweeten it...
mekos
Oct 19, 2010 7:31 PM CST
Name: Jan - INKY'S PAL Charleys Girl
NEWBEE CHAT & HELP LINE
I'm a Charley's girl and loving it!
I haven't tried it , I just found it's use. But I think I will try it. How much of the dried blooms do you use?

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