Pathways & Pavers forum: How Do I Get Started?

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Xeolyte
Feb 2, 2010 3:19 PM CST
Name: Anne
Summerville, SC
Hi,

If it ever stops raining here, I'd love to learn how to make some pavers. Could someone point me in the direction on the basics of how to get started please? Things like supplies needed, recipes for the concrete starting with simple to more complex etc?

Xeolyte
Never do what you can't undo, until you've considered what you can't do once you've done it.
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Imagedana
Feb 2, 2010 3:54 PM CST
Name: dana aka iris28
tristate area, ky z6b
yay and hello!! .. well i have a few ideas.. i like to reuse things so ill tell you some cheap ways reusing things, and some more expensive ways buying forms. first you have to decide what you need them for , is it for edging or patio .. etc. i always use the strongest concrete mix just to be sure . its type-s morter mix. its sand and portland cement. its really fine and smooth. and only 5.00 for an 80 lb bag

any way the types and recipes depend on the amt of weight they will hold.. so driveway pavers need to be stronger than edging pavers. they also need to be thicker..

im artsy so i love different shapes... you can make pavers out of just about any form... you can use coolwhip containers and the like .. it will create smooth circles of different sizes. you can use anything that will hold the concrete.
when making pavers it may take longer to get the amt you need. say you need 100 you could probably do 10 a day if you had 10 forms. so thats 10 days.. its more work but way cheaper than buying 100 at 2.50 a peice at lowes. i figure you can get at least 20 out of a 5.00 bag of concrete. thats 25.00 lol as opposed to 250!!

SUPPLIES:
FORMS, RUBBER GLOVES, MASK, PAM COOKING SPRAY OR WD40, BABY OIL OR SOME OTHER SLIPPERY THING. CONCRETE MIX, WATER , WHEEL BARROW OR SOMETHING TO MIX IN.

to start : collect containers. once you have enough to do about 20-30 or more if they are small. (concrete wont cure under 50*) line up all the containers and spray/ grease . you can do things like add glass or shells into the forms before you fill so that they will be embedded once you pop them out of the form. next you put the concrete in to the wheel barrow and make a well in the center of the concrete and add water to the well.mix slowly adding water as you go. the mixing is the hard part it takes muscle. i usually bribe dh to do it . any way. once its pancake batter consistency. scoop it into the forms making sure they are all about the same thickness. think cupcakes .lol once you fill the forms take the forms and tap them to get the air out. then cover .. the longer they take to harden the stronger they will be. in the summer you want to do it in the shade. they should be able to pop out after 24 hrs. then there is hypertufa.. thats a thing all on its own and not strong enough for pavers.
im sure i missed something .. so just ask away.
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Imagedana
Feb 2, 2010 3:58 PM CST
Name: dana aka iris28
tristate area, ky z6b
if you save the lids you can just pop the lids on .ill be back with part 2 in a bit
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Imagedana
Feb 2, 2010 5:42 PM CST
Name: dana aka iris28
tristate area, ky z6b
ok buying forms can get expensive depending on how many pavers you want. they take about a day to harden enough to take out of the form .. so you have to do the math on that.. figure how many you want and divide it by how many days you want them and thats how many forms you need. at least thats how id do it on a small scale.. at first it may cost almost as much as buying a pallet of pavers but you will make your money back over time.. i considered doing this for the driveway . since we needed so many and it is cheaper to make them.. then dh said he tearing the driveway out was to much work.. i was like we'll rent a jackhammer c'mon but it was a no go. the paver forms can be found all over the web.. and they are uniform. so you wouldnt have a hodge podge .is that how you spell that ?? lol
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Imagedana
Feb 2, 2010 5:46 PM CST
Name: dana aka iris28
tristate area, ky z6b
currently im making concrete cylinders with soda bottle forms..they look soo neat.. im using them as edgers. i cant wait to show off what im doing with them..
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Imagedana
Feb 2, 2010 6:21 PM CST
Name: dana aka iris28
tristate area, ky z6b
im still figuring out this thing so ill have the basics posted somewere..
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Xeolyte
Feb 3, 2010 3:43 PM CST
Name: Anne
Summerville, SC
Thanks for the info! I'm getting excited about starting up if it ever stops raining and the ground gets a chance to dry. So is there a general formula for dimensions needed for heavy stuff?

Xeolyte
Never do what you can't undo, until you've considered what you can't do once you've done it.
King Shrewd in Assassin's Apprentice - Robin Hobb

Imagedana
Feb 3, 2010 3:59 PM CST
Name: dana aka iris28
tristate area, ky z6b
yes .. ill have to look that up.. its one of those pound per square inch things
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ImageMcGlory
Feb 8, 2010 9:41 PM CST
Name: Lori
Southeast Nebraska
I'd be interested in seeing your soda bottle cylinders. How thick do pavers have to be if they won't be walked upon? I mean like if they're just a decorative edge or something. (That's probably technically not a "paver.") Sticking tongue out
Imagedana
Feb 8, 2010 9:49 PM CST
Name: dana aka iris28
tristate area, ky z6b
thats all up to you .. they can be flat on the ground to a few inches thick and more. i cant wait to show the soda bottles. i have to make a few more .. more like 50 more. i havnt decided if i will post a start to finish thread when im all done (which will be after iris time, im moving about 1000 iris to put this new bed and want to wait for th bloom lol ) or as im doing it.. they are fast and easy and so cheap. plus they look really cool. think column ruins
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bisa80
Mar 5, 2010 12:53 PM CST
Name: Lisa Johnson
Eighty Four, PA
Dana...any pictures yet on the soda bottle edgers? My husband bought me my first rubber mold this christmas...I can't wait for the weather to break. We are using it to make a sidewalks. However, I have been looking for a cool edging for my flower beds....any more ideas?
Imagedana
Mar 5, 2010 2:23 PM CST
Name: dana aka iris28
tristate area, ky z6b
i was holding off on posting them because im no where near done with the bed but i can take pics of what i have done so far. i really love them. the weather is finally breaking so i can make some more. i also had this idea for filling different containers like coolwhip and butter containers 3 inches with concrete and mixing in glass and shells in. then they could be stacked like a mini wall. they would resemble those edgers but they would be way more artsy looking.
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ImageMiniMama
Apr 1, 2010 8:53 AM CST
Name: Sarah
Georgia
What a neat idea. I'd never thought of making my own. I'm going to have to start collecting things to use as molds. I'm wondering-could I use cardboard boxes as molds? I was thinking that if I lined them with plastic wrap they would work but I don't know.
ImageAguane
Apr 1, 2010 9:20 PM CST
Name: Susie
Phoenix AZ
Mini,
You can use cardboard boxes as frames. I do. Line the box with plastic sheets from anything you can think of. They don't last forever, however. Remember, do NOT add too much water when mixing the concrete mixture. It will severely compromise the strength and durability of your finished piece. As in, it WILL crumble.
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