WAR & PEACE forum: BP, Haliburton, Bush conspiracy???

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ImageOldgardenrose
Nov 17, 2010 9:54 AM CST
Name: Jerry
Salem, IL
I have always said, from the beginning of the Gulf War in 1991, it was all a farce set up to drive up the price of oil in order to enrich the Bush/Cheney cronies. You will recall, the British were always a major partner with the US from the beginning to the present. BP is a major industry in the UK and, according to current data, their dividends to shareholders equals approximately one seventh of the total dividends paid in the UK. There was a story floating around in the news that Hussein was given the green light by the Bush administration to invade Kuwait. When he put ten times the number of military assets into Kuwait necessary to hold the country, the administration became alarmed he would attack Saudi Arabia and began the Gulf War. The subsequent fly overs enforcing the No Fly Zone was an attempt to goad him into military action. After that failure for ten years, the Bush/Cheney group had no choice but to provoke the UN into a number of sanctions which could eventually be used for an excuse to invade Iraq.

Ask yourself who profited from the almost nineteen years of conflict? Ask yourself how many lies and attempted coverups have been dished out to the public since people began asking questions?

That is my conspiracy theory only and stands to be refudiated by logic.
ImageLynxx
Nov 17, 2010 10:09 AM CST
Name: Just call me Lynxx :)
South Florida, 9B
Lover of planet earth
You'll get none from me Jerry. I totally agree that it was a guise, and the ignorant fell right into the trap wet by the republicans in office, who backed every move those two made. i feel as though America was being held for ransom, and at what price do we pay?
Their understanding of the word 'justice?'
...'Just-Us'
ImageLynxx
Nov 18, 2010 4:01 PM CST
Name: Just call me Lynxx :)
South Florida, 9B
Lover of planet earth
What? None of you guys have an opinion on this??? This is such a great thread Hurray!
ImageTexGun
Nov 18, 2010 4:16 PM CST
Name: Tex
Boerne, TX
Oldgardenrose wrote:The subsequent fly overs enforcing the No Fly Zone was an attempt to goad him into military action. After that failure for ten years, the Bush/Cheney group...


Are you saying that Clinton was trying to goad Saddam into military action? I asked because it was Clinton that oversaw most of the "No Fly Zone" decade.
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ImageOldgardenrose
Nov 18, 2010 4:48 PM CST
Name: Jerry
Salem, IL
The no fly zone was setup at the end of the Gulf War by Bush Sr as President and Cheney as Secretary of Defense. Clinton inherited the operation in '93. Much like Obama's gift of the current Iraqi mess. You are correct, Clinton was in control of the issue after the die had been cast. Bush Jr resumed control in '01 until the invasion in 03. That part of the story is open to debate as I said. I stand by the opinion it was part of a scam. Powell was Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff under Bush Sr, as I recall. That is mainly what my conspiracy idea was based upon. There is no way Bush, Cheney and Powell did not know what was going on inside Iraq. The WMD story was a complete fabrication as was basically proved after the invasion was completed. One story which came out later was we had paid a senior Iraqi official to give out the false information which was used to justify the invasion.
ImageLynxx
Nov 18, 2010 5:17 PM CST
Name: Just call me Lynxx :)
South Florida, 9B
Lover of planet earth
But if I remember, didn't Powell want out? He knew how dirty the hands of Bushy Jr. and Cheney were...I think he did know what was going down, and no longer agreed with the policies, after working for Sr. Bush, agreed to work with Junior, but was finding
out how badly that would fare for him.
I've seen him interviewed since, I think he does portray himself as an honest man. Maybe his concious got the best of him ,and he left.
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ImageOldgardenrose
Nov 18, 2010 5:46 PM CST
Name: Jerry
Salem, IL
Powell was kind of between a rock and a hard place personally. I seem to recall that, after he left the military, he was kicking around the idea of running for president. Somebody made the move to attack and discredit his wife so he dropped the idea. Being appointed to Secretary of State by Bush Jr was a consolation price, as I saw it, and his being black and appointed to such a position could help enhance the black image for the younger generation. He lost all credibility with his "mobile poison gas vehicles" that turned out to be a complete fraud. Bush and Cheney had a way of poisoning everything they touched, from the constitution to their staff personnel and to the country's reputation around the world. Those are two people who should go gently into that good night and never be seen or heard publicly again.
ImageLynxx
Nov 19, 2010 9:52 AM CST
Name: Just call me Lynxx :)
South Florida, 9B
Lover of planet earth
Yes Jerry, I didn't know about any agenda towards his wife. That would be outrageous.
Perhaps he did help president Obama get elected...I know he did endorse him.
To this day, Colin Powell is a man I respect. He gives me the impression he will talk to me, as a democrat; as well as his true party, the republicans. It's a real shame that Dick trashed him, simply because he's not far right wing.
I really wish we could just meet in the middle, and do what is right for the country. I think he'd make an excellent president, and i did back then when I got the same 'hint' you did.
ImageOldgardenrose
Nov 19, 2010 10:32 AM CST
Name: Jerry
Salem, IL
In the back of my mind, it was something to do with his wife's prescription drugs. I will check it out but I cannot say, at this time, who was behind it. It is a typical Rove move, though.
ImageOldgardenrose
Nov 19, 2010 11:05 AM CST
Name: Jerry
Salem, IL
Mrs. Powell never became a public figure so, probably, her privacy has been respected. The only thing I could find with a quick search was, in part, "........the seedier side of politics willing to exploit Powell's wife's mental illness to shutter his bid". Draw your own conclusions on the group responsible. At that time, he was the most respected member of the Republican party and, it was speculated, he could have won with a true landside.
patgeorge
Nov 21, 2010 12:33 PM CST
Name: Pat(rick) George
Finland (previously England)
I agree that Britain, especially under Blair (known nowadays as 'Bliar') was Bush's poodle. However, although BP still has HQ in London, it's very much an international company nowadays,
ImageOldgardenrose
Nov 21, 2010 1:56 PM CST
Name: Jerry
Salem, IL
BP, much the same as Halliburton, has it's tentacles into so many things involving energy that it would be naive to think both do not have major political cronies to jump at their beck and call. In this country, shortly after having been elected VP, Cheney held an "energy meeting" with many very prominent politically connected business people. The meeting was so secret, names of the attendees and records from the meeting were never released as far as I know.

It appeared, as to a lead up to the Iraqi invasion, Bush was presenting "proof" cooked up by Blair and Blair was presenting "proof" cooked up by Bush. Turned out later they were both lying or more politely "misspeaking".
hellnzn
Dec 18, 2010 6:53 PM CST
Any of you watch Jesse Ventura's Conspiracy Theory? If you don't you should. I subscribe to all things pointing to and flashing red lights above prophesy fulfillment in the Bible. You may not but if I am right and you are wrong. I have nothing to lose on the other hand....

Next conspiracy topic.
I had a patient years ago who was very nervously but apprehensively chatting about his work related injury. This was about 1993. He said he worked for the government in a top secret department where they did experiments to produce weather, certain types of weather in certain places. He said the problem was, yes they could alter weather, but they had no control of how it was altered and where it would be altered. It caused great pain and hardship on many people and the stress of what it was doing and what this agency was trying to accomplish was more than he could bare. He also indicated he was sort of looking over his shoulder and moving all the time.

I was never sure what he said was fact, but he did seem sincere and was nervous. I asked him how he got hurt. He skirted and I sort of made him feel like he could unload, since I was giving him a therapeutic massage. Sometimes people need that to relax. All these years later I wonder, did that big Tsunami come from that agency? Did that flood come from that agency? Was that guy full of crap?

There was a whole episode of Jesse Ventura about it. I will always wonder if that was what the patient was involved in or if he was a nut? Confused
ImageAguane
Dec 18, 2010 7:03 PM CST
Name: Susie
Phoenix AZ
Dawn,
I've talked to people in high-tech, thinking machines, as they were known in the late 1990's. They definitely confirmed to me that they (their company/technology) had a hand in experimenting with weather control. I don't imagine that effort has ceased.
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hellnzn
Dec 21, 2010 9:36 PM CST
Speaking of, How are you guys liking this Rain? I'm loving it. We are having a scary amount of it all at once though. You know the desert can only take so much before the clay bowl starts to fill up and drown us.

My weeds are suddenly emerging all over.

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