Hybridizing 101 forum: Patterns

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Imagelyle627
Feb 25, 2013 9:26 AM CST
Name: Lyle
Phoenix
I thought i would start a thread on patterned daylilies, this seems like a hot trend at this time in the daylily world...

There are a couple variables when it comes to what is a patterned daylily, one is the appliqué throat...

One of my favorites is........
SPACECOAST BEHAVIOR PATTERN
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And probably one of the best parents for the appliqué throat is ....
SPACECOAST SEA SHELLS
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One of the better advances of the appliqué throat is ....
NEW PARADIGM
(The Band Played ON X Tetra Terry Lyninger )
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I will have seedlings from this one also, this coming spring.
VISONARY
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Imagelyle627
Feb 27, 2013 9:11 AM CST
Name: Lyle
Phoenix
The patterned eye seems to be the most popular, other turms multi - layer,stained glass, and broken eye....

One of the more popular, when it came out was ..

WATER DROPS ...Photo from the hybrizer
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Good parents for patterned eyes ...

THROUGH THE LOOKING GLASS
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BUTTERFLY RIPPLES
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PICKUP LINES
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ImageBetja
Feb 27, 2013 10:52 AM CST
Name: Betty Jacobs
Bakersfield, CA
Lyle, I'm so glad you're doing a thread on patterns. But those intricate patterns like that of WATER DROPS don't seem to show up here, and I'm thinking it's because of our heat. I've had GET JIGGY for probably three years now, and this is what all the blooms look like for me:

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Do the intricate patterns show up for you? Actually, I now consider it a blessing that they don't for me because if they did I would want to have them all and would be cruising the Lily Auction like crazy for them! But the ones I do really love are the appliqué patterns. Here is what a couple of them look like here in the heat of Bakersfield.

SPACECOAST SEA SHELLS and AERIAL APPLIQUE
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And what about the prisms? Are they considered appliqué patterns? I've really gotten into them, especially since they usually have large yellow-green to green throats. Here is my TET. MALACHITE PRISM that I got from Maryott's last year. Love love love it!

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Betty
Imagelyle627
Feb 28, 2013 5:26 AM CST
Name: Lyle
Phoenix
Betty - I like to think that all daylilies look as advertised by the hybridizer " but that is not always true" some daylilies look different in certain parts of the country due to high humidity, dry heat, cool conditions, and then we get into soil conditions, fertilizing programs, and water use. If a hybridizer wants their daylilies to be true to the way they are advertised, then that daylily would need several photos to represent each growing climate it is grown in..

I'm getting off topic...One of the biggest changes in daylilies can be the photo itself, not always the case but a hybridizer is going to show you their best photo of a daylily, and they have every right to do so, as long as they don't over enhance the photo. At this time a photo is on the Robin that is in question to the photo being accurate in color, and it is from a major hybridizer..

You have shown nice daylilies and I am sure you will get a patterned look from Get Jiggy (Parentage: (Rock Solid × Bit of Blue) Rock Solid will give up its eye and makes it easy to get patterned results also as your photo shows the offspring’s from Rock Solid will show the eye in its solid state as well, like doubles I wish all of the traits had a percentage of how often the patterned eye blooms out, and how often you get a solid eye…

With hybridizers trying to push the envelope they are leaving out a lot of information about their daylilies…

If you could visit other gardens in Bakersfield, CA you would know exactly what to expect from a daylily grown in your area, this is one reason so many join clubs in and around their own area. We have four gardens in Phoenix and you would get more of an idea of how certain daylilies look from our warm climate than you would from Nor Cal with their cool climate..When I visit Rudy's Garden in July, I am blown away by the rich colors of his daylilies grown in the cool higher elevation. If you travel around to different gardens you will find a great deal of diversity from garden to garden.

Back to the patterns..

Leslie Mauck sent me Whale Tales, I will know more about it this coming sping...

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springcolor
Feb 28, 2013 1:15 PM CST
Name: Julia
Western Washington
Great info. I'm wondering how the daylilies will grow for me here in Washington. Cool most of the year and wet. Time will tell. I did joint the club but the meetings are all in Olympia, 2 hour drive, so never made it to any. I really love the patterns too and have bought a few like 'Caesars Head' and a few others. They are all new and coming this spring.
That 'whale Tails' is beautiful hope it does well for you.
Imagelyle627
Mar 1, 2013 10:23 AM CST
Name: Lyle
Phoenix
Julia - you will find some daylilies open better on cool mornings than others, this to me would be important, sometimes daylilies that hang in the morning will remain hung up all day, and will need to be assisted with opening.

As for the blooms, I'm not sure about Washington State.
It is always nice to join a club and receive the benefits of others growing knowledge, and daylily recommendations, in your area.

Two hours seems to me a long distance to travel. In my own region (Region 7) we have California that has a large geographical area and, some clubs face the problem of some members being 3 or 4 hours traveling distance from their clubs.
Suggestions:
• If you can find someone close to you who is also involved with daylilies maybe you could car pool to the meeting share expenses.
• If you can find a garden club with several members who enjoy daylilies they may wish to start/join a club in your area.
• Make sure you find the club closest to you.

Washington Daylily Societies
Columbia River Daylily Club
Ivy Lumpkin-Tru, President
10 NE Buffalo
Portland OR 97211
503-490-1687
[email protected]

Puget Sound Daylily Club
Kathryn Sheldon, President
12602 147th Street East
Puyallup WA 98374
253-445-2739
[email protected]


Also one of the benefits of joining the American Hemerocallis Society (AHS) you are invited to the Regional Meeting.

AHS Region 8 Summer Meeting 2013
2013 Region 8 Annual Summer Meeting
July 19 – 21, 2013

Hosted by: Aldergrove Daylily Society

Speaker: Dan Trimmer

Location: Hampton Inn and Suites, Langley B.C. Canada
Friday night BBQ
Saturday Bus Tour, and Banquet
Sunday Speaker and auction

Hotel includes
Hot Buffet Breakfast
Business center, indoor pool, rooms come equipped with microwave and refrigerators.

Imagelyle627
Mar 3, 2013 7:51 AM CST
Name: Lyle
Phoenix
This year i will use some of my own for patterned crosses with the help from other hybridizer's intros.

One of my favorites from 2012 was this seedling showing a nice stained glass look in the eye zone..
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If i were going to work this one into a smaller look (small, mini) a good possibility would be ...
Tet - Devil's Footprint
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If i were to be seeking a larger bloom from this seedling i may go with something like .....
Pickup Lines
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More late...
springcolor
Mar 3, 2013 11:43 AM CST
Name: Julia
Western Washington
Thanks for all the good information. I may join again next year because your right so much good information about what grows here.
Yor pictures are beautiful. The first one is gorgeous!!
Imagelyle627
Mar 12, 2013 12:08 PM CST
Name: Lyle
Phoenix
Julia, Sorry! It seems that it takes longer to reply these days, with my involvement in the Region 7 sometime there just isn't enough time to post.

I do hope you will re-join your club. The regional newsletter is usually full of good advice and of course members of AHS always receive the Daylily Journal four times a year that in its self is a good deal..

Another seedling i hope to work with this coming spring - this one has Judge Nancy in it's parentage

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Imagelyle627
Apr 3, 2013 7:29 AM CST
Name: Lyle
Phoenix
This one is now blooming and the pollen will be collected..

TETRA - DEVIL'S FOOTPRINT
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ImageBetja
Apr 3, 2013 10:20 AM CST
Name: Betty Jacobs
Bakersfield, CA
That's a beauty!
Betty
Imagemcash70
Apr 3, 2013 11:05 PM CST
Name: Margaret
BC, Can.
Very pretty!!
Imagelyle627
Apr 4, 2013 7:22 AM CST
Name: Lyle
Phoenix
Thanks for the comments!

Tet conversion Devil's Footprint is 3.25 inches, and has proven to be a good parent.

Tet Devil's Footprint is the pollen parent to Jamaican Love which is the pollen parent to Dragonfly Dawn,also, pollen parent to Rings of Wonder, some very nice patterned eyed daylilies with TDF in their background.

Other possibilities mini's, and small forms with patterned eyes.

Imagelyle627
Oct 5, 2015 6:29 AM CST
Name: Lyle
Phoenix
It seems that patterns are still popular, some of the newer patterns in todays market.

BOWTIE AFFAIR
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TATTOO
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WHALE TAILS
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STENCILED DI FRESCO
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