deterring pests and other plant eaters forum: deterrents

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ImageLance
Jan 7, 2011 2:22 PM CST
Name: Lance Gardner
coastal plain Virginia
Question authority, guide in wisdom
I am starting this forum so we can share ideas on how to deter unwanted visitors, such as deer, rabbits, squirrels, and other digging and plant munching animals. Please share your ideas with us, and maybe we can come up with some innovative and fun methods for keeping our plants to ourselves. If you have experience on methods that do not work, let us know about these, as well.
Look and listen for the welfare of the whole people and have always in view not only the present but also the coming generations, even those whose faces are yet beneath the surface of the ground -- the unborn of the future Nation. The Constitution of the Iroquois Nations.
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Imagege1836
Jan 22, 2011 10:29 AM CST
Name: Jo Ann Gentle
NY State
If we are talking aout just kritters and not bugs I have had excellent success with 2 products.
Repells all.It works on deer for sure and I begin my spraying season in March and continue to spray every 3 weeks all summer and into the fall in Zone 6a.

I spray the ground pre emergance because the smell discourages the deer from comming around, as plants appear I spray them as well.

I used to use Liquid Fence until after 2 years it stopped doing the job.
I found out Deer become used to the smell andwere'nt threatened by an unusual odor in their path.

I alternate both of these sprays and have had no problems in the 4 years I have gardened here.

I noticed a vole problem in late December and bought Plantskydd for small mammals,rabbits and mice and voles. This is the granular form and as soon as the 3 feet drifts have melted I will sprinkle some where the tunnels go to the lily bulb stalks.
Too many lily bulbs to cage everyone.


Imagegardengus
Jan 22, 2011 10:37 AM CST
Name: Cinda
Indiana Zone 5a
Truth is worth finding
In the spring I always have raccoons that dig my freshly planted pots. I believe it is a Mom teaching her young ones
I have found plain old pepper to do a good job , of course it has to be reapplied after a rain of every so often but they loose interest after a bit and move on .
I buy the pepper at the dollar store , the cheep kind does the job.
It also keeps bunnies off my fresh lettuces in the spring... Smiling just remember to wash it off.
Imagege1836
Jan 22, 2011 10:51 AM CST
Name: Jo Ann Gentle
NY State
I go to Sams or BJ's big box store and buy Cayenne in the resturante size.
I sprinkle it on my newly planted bulbs and planters. Squirrls are the problem here.
I also mix it with bird seed to keep squirrle out of the feeders.
ImageLance
Jan 23, 2011 7:58 AM CST
Name: Lance Gardner
coastal plain Virginia
Question authority, guide in wisdom
Thanks for the suggestions. I gave a talk a few days ago on the benefits of native plants, and included a slide on possible deterrents. Here is what I listed:
Automated water sprinklers
Predator look-alikes
Predator urine, pee on your plants (really)
eggs for deer, hot pepper, other deterrents
Fences – electric and barrier
Dogs
Companion and inter- planting, such as daffodils, smelly plants
Plant some for the animals, plant resistant types
Don’t use plants that you know have problems

I also received comments suggesting Juicy Fruit chewing gum for voles - it plugs them up.
Any more suggestions, pass them on.
Look and listen for the welfare of the whole people and have always in view not only the present but also the coming generations, even those whose faces are yet beneath the surface of the ground -- the unborn of the future Nation. The Constitution of the Iroquois Nations.
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ImageRetSgt
May 10, 2011 1:26 PM CST
Name: Sarge
Live Life You may not be here tomor
here is what i made and use . i grow what is needed to make it also so i don't have to buy it . most folks have seen my recipe by now i think .

BUG B GONE AND CRITTER GITTER FROM YOUR GARDEN SPRAY
THE NATURAL WAY: THE SARG.

6 Jalapeños
4 Cloves of Garlic
1 Yellow (Hot) Onion
1 Cup of Ground /Crushed Red Pepper
*Grind all ingredients in blender let set.
* Boil 4 Quarts of water to raging boil.

Put Ingredients in one (1) Gallon (Wide Mouth) Jug or Equivalent.
Pour Hot water in on top, **** (Let stand 48 hours) To Ferment. (Very Important)
Strain mix through panty hose.(NOT the Wife’s Good Ones! Ya could get hurt)
Mix will yield one gallon that can be mixed in 2 ½ Gal. sprayer. (Add cool water to fill line)

***Spray New and growing plants. Can be sprayed on any Flowers, Veggies, Trees and Bushes With Or Without Fruit bearing. DO NOT SPRAY IN HEAT OF DAY !

There is not a bug or critter around that will bother you garden.
*** The Bees Do Not Care****


Sarge Thumbs up
ImageLance
May 10, 2011 2:03 PM CST
Name: Lance Gardner
coastal plain Virginia
Question authority, guide in wisdom
Thanks for the recipe, that certainly looks like it will bring tears to the eyes of bug and beast alike. I would add to be careful about pouring boiling hot water into a glass jar, as some types of glass could break from the sudden temperature change. Plastic may work best for this recipe.
Should you feel like writing this up as an official article, I would be happy to publish it for you here.
Look and listen for the welfare of the whole people and have always in view not only the present but also the coming generations, even those whose faces are yet beneath the surface of the ground -- the unborn of the future Nation. The Constitution of the Iroquois Nations.
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ImageRickCorey
May 11, 2011 7:35 PM CST
Name: Rick Corey
Pacific NorthWet Zone 8a
Just the thought of fermented onions makes me run away, gagging. I worked in a supermarket once, and had to re-bag onions, some of which were "runny".

PHEW!

I have read that, in India, hot chilli peppers called bhut jolokoi or naga viper chilis are crushed and rubbed on fences to keep out wild elephants.

I didn't even know there were wild elephants anywhere in India ... it must work really well!

Corey
ImageLance
May 12, 2011 6:12 AM CST
Name: Lance Gardner
coastal plain Virginia
Question authority, guide in wisdom
The Indian elephant is a different and much smaller critter than the African elephant. If it works for elephants, it must work for smaller stuff.
Look and listen for the welfare of the whole people and have always in view not only the present but also the coming generations, even those whose faces are yet beneath the surface of the ground -- the unborn of the future Nation. The Constitution of the Iroquois Nations.
Dogs; Family Fun Unplugged; Perennials, Annuals, Veggies; Happy Birthday Wishes
ImageRetSgt
May 12, 2011 8:24 AM CST
Name: Sarge
Live Life You may not be here tomor
the term fermented is an expression more then letting things rot. the hot water cooks the stuff in the batch and the oils and juices is then strained off the pulp and then used for the spray.

it does NOT smell rotten but is very potent and it works very well.

Sarge
ImageRickCorey
May 13, 2011 3:28 PM CST
Name: Rick Corey
Pacific NorthWet Zone 8a
Whew!

Maybe the pepper juices preserve the onion juices.

If you ever had to wipe a squishy onion out of your fridge, you know what I mean!

Corey
ImageRetSgt
May 14, 2011 9:45 AM CST
Name: Sarge
Live Life You may not be here tomor
Rolling on the floor laughing I agree

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