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Imagezuzu
May 10, 2015 4:00 PM CST
Name: Zuzu
Northern California
zone 9
The show starts at 8:00 on Monday, June 1st, on Fox.

Mary Murphy is gone. Crying Paula Abdul will take her place, and Jason Derulo (who was such a failure as a guest judge) will be the third judge on the panel. Nigel is still there.

The new format is Stage vs. Street. The top 20 will consist of 10 "stage" dancers and 10 "street" dancers. They will be mentored by Travis Wall and Twitch, who seems to have stopped spelling his name "tWitch." One dancer from each group will be eliminated each week.

I'm not crazy about the prospect of having hip hop represent 50% of the dances each week, but maybe it will spare the stage dancers from having to perform hip hop.

Frankly, I don't like any of the changes.
Imagezuzu
Jun 1, 2015 2:00 PM CST
Name: Zuzu
Northern California
zone 9
The 2-hour season premiere is airing tonight on Fox at 8:00. Can't wait!
ImageWindigo
Jun 2, 2015 6:05 AM CST
Name: Deb
It will be interesting to see how this will work. Not happy with the stage vs street thing. No sending auditioners to choreography. It seems like we won't be seeing dancers perform in areas they're not trained in, and sometimes those ended up being some of the best.
Imagezuzu
Jun 2, 2015 1:08 PM CST
Name: Zuzu
Northern California
zone 9
I agree. I don't like any of the changes so far. Monday's a terrible night for SYTYCD because it has to compete with The Bachelorette. I don't ever watch the Batchelor and Batchelorette shows anymore, but a lot of SYTYCD's potential audience does.

The new judges are awful. Paula's boring and Jason Derulo is obviously homophobic, not to mention stupid. He only paraphrased whatever Nigel and Paula said.

The lack of a choreography round is upsetting for the very reason you've pointed out, Deb. I want to see dancers try to perform every style of dance. Furthermore, I don't want to watch "street" dancing 50% of the time. It's terrible that dancers of every "stage" genre will be given only 10 spots this season.

Now that Travis Wall is a full-time mentor on the show, will he be doing any of the choreography? Or will he be doing all of the "stage" choreography, to the exclusion of the other choreographers we like? Will we see any All-Stars this season? What other terrible changes can we expect in the weeks to come?

The overnight ratings for the premiere were so low that there's already virtually no chance of another season. Did the producers deliberately set out to murder the show?
ImageWindigo
Jun 3, 2015 6:24 AM CST
Name: Deb
I'm afraid you're right, this may be it, as far as this show goes. I don't want to watch the "street" dancing half the time, either. It was interesting watching the trained dancers bring their spin to the hip hop dances, and some of those "street" dancers ended up doing fairly well with some of the other styles, as long as the choreographers worked within their abilities. I'm afraid this will end up a big flop. That's too bad, I always looked forward to this show.
Imagezuzu
Jun 3, 2015 12:52 PM CST
Name: Zuzu
Northern California
zone 9
And Paula annoyed me with her overuse of "special": "You're special," "You're very special," "You're very, very special," "You're so special." How meaningful is the statement after she's applied it to 10 dancers in a row?
ImageWindigo
Jun 4, 2015 6:27 AM CST
Name: Deb
They've had many guest judges in the past who would have fit in well, I can't imagine why they chose those two to be on the judging panel.
Imagequilter5
Jun 4, 2015 4:11 PM CST
Name: Barb Jenkins
Hillsborough, NH
I was so disappointed in the format this year and the lack of judges. Seems like the handwriting is on the wall.
Imagemcash70
Jun 4, 2015 4:42 PM CST
Name: Margaret
BC, Can.
quilter5 wrote:I was so disappointed in the format this year and the lack of judges. Seems like the handwriting is on the wall.

I have to agree with everything said so far by everyone, I think they may have killed the show. Sad
Imagezuzu
Jun 10, 2015 3:22 PM CST
Name: Zuzu
Northern California
zone 9
Firing Mary apparently had nothing to do with Nigel. He's re-tweeting every Twitter message calling for Mary's return.
Imagezuzu
Jun 16, 2015 10:48 PM CST
Name: Zuzu
Northern California
zone 9
After the first two rather boring audition weeks, I was happy to see the talent come out in droves in Los Angeles. Some great ballet and ballroom dancers. There were also some good street dancers this week. The animation auditions still bore me silly, though. They seem to go on for ages while the person just keeps repeating the same moves over and over.

I was reading Travis Wall's blog and was struck by something: He said that he and Twitch were eliminating lots of people without giving them a second chance during Vegas week because they knew they had to get rid of all but 10 dancers eventually. Now that the show is on TV, he and Twitch have been watching the auditions and feeling guilty every time someone with a sad backstory comes on. They eliminated so many of them without ever knowing the trials and tribulations they had to overcome before they became dancers.

I guess it's a good thing that they never heard the backstories. It means they chose the best dancers strictly on merit, without any emotional reactions, but I understand how bad they must feel now. It made me wonder whether they had eliminated the guy who lost his mother at 15 and then got testicular cancer or the girl who's had 20 operations on her leg and was told by every doctor that she'd never walk again, much less dance.

Imagezuzu
Jul 7, 2015 5:13 PM CST
Name: Zuzu
Northern California
zone 9
I'm happy with the top 20. They didn't leave out any of my favorites.
ImageWindigo
Jul 8, 2015 6:09 AM CST
Name: Deb
It looks like a good line up that they have. Glad the dancers were chosen on merit, and not their back stories. I'll be watching this season, even though I still don't like the judges.
Imagequilter5
Jul 13, 2015 8:38 AM CST
Name: Barb Jenkins
Hillsborough, NH
Based on the last couple of posts, I'll try watching again. I was so disappointed before......
Imagezuzu
Jul 14, 2015 2:26 PM CST
Name: Zuzu
Northern California
zone 9
I wonder if I'm going to disagree with the judges every week. I thought the number Travis choreographed for Kate and Edson was the best performance of the night, but all three judges criticized it. Kate's a member of Travis' dance company, Shaping Sound, and has been his best friend for the last 10 years.
ImageWindigo
Jul 15, 2015 9:01 AM CST
Name: Deb
I liked that one best, too. You sure won't be the only one disagreeing with them! I can't remember which performance it was, but it was one of the "street" groups where the judges were standing at the end, and all I could think was, "well that was awful!" I don't know, I'll continue to watch, despite the judges.
Imagezuzu
Jul 15, 2015 1:13 PM CST
Name: Zuzu
Northern California
zone 9
I had the same reaction to the street dance that won a standing ovation from the judges.

The camera work and sets this season may be contributing to our disagreement with the judges. It's hard to figure out what the judges are seeing when we don't always see the whole group of dancers at once. The camera constantly focuses on one or two people at a time instead of showing us the whole group. This is really irritating when the dancers are supposed to be dancing in unison and we want to see whether one of them is out of step. At times the camera view also included another camera, which is so unprofessional. There's also too much reliance on the fog machine. The fog was so thick during one of the stage team's performances that we rarely saw the dancers' feet.
Imagezuzu
Jul 15, 2015 3:31 PM CST
Name: Zuzu
Northern California
zone 9
Don't forget to watch the 10th anniversary show on Tuesday, July 21st. Lots of former contestants doing live performances of fan "favorite" numbers. I don't know where these fans are voting for their favorites, however. Maybe on Facebook (which is not something I would do).
ImageWindigo
Jul 16, 2015 6:29 AM CST
Name: Deb
I hadn't heard about the anniversary show. That should be fun to watch!
Imagezuzu
Jul 21, 2015 12:29 AM CST
Name: Zuzu
Northern California
zone 9
Travis said earlier this season that he knew many of this season's SYTYCD contestants even before they auditioned because the dance world is such a small community. It really is. Tonight's Salsa dance on SYTYCD was choreographed by Dancing with the Stars pro dancer Oksana Dmytrenko and SYTYCD Season Five contestant Jonathan Platero. They got married a year ago.

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