Yes, I'm cluttered forum: Could clutter be associated with ADD?
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| A new friend I met this week and I were discussing the effects that ADD have on one's organizational skills. We wonder how many adults suffer from ADD and don't realize it or have never been officially diagnosed as having ADD? I am organized in my mind but have a tendency to get side-tracked when doing projects or chores, thus nothing really gets completed because I jump from one thing to another. Paper clutter from the computer is a big problem but I find that I can read "a hard copy" of something better than reading it from the monitor screen. Doesn't have anything to do with failing eyesight problems but comprehending the context and understanding what I read. I know this started in elementary school..about 5th or 6th. grade. The more I have read about Attention Deficient Disorder, the more convinced I am that I have it. I'm pushing 68 in a few weeks and no need to be tested now! " The apple doesn't fall too far from the tree, " as my son suffers from it. As a young child, he suffered from a speech problem and spent 4 yrs or more taking speech therapy. Like me, he has a tendency to never complete projects . I spend a lot of time reading back over what I have printed off(To read later or in case I may want to refer to it again)weeding out and putting stuff I want to keep in a notebook is a challenge to me. Filing is a chore I have always hated but I'm a stickler for stuff to be filed correctly. In jobs where I had to do a lot of filing, oh, how did I dread that. Maybe because it's boring? Here at home, I'm not paid for filing so eventually "I'll get 'round tuit!" This new friend and I compared notes on our ADD likeness, and she said she has a son that is also effected by it. |
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Pippi, I definitely think that ADD effects my organization skills. I do have ADD, I find that I work better and feel better when things are organized, but I too get sidetracked and have a hard time focusing on just one task. I dont take medicine for ADD but I know what helps me stay focused...caffeine!  If I have a project that I really need to get done and have a problem staying focused, I drink a cuppa java and it really does help me a lot! Caffeine has the opposite effect on someone with ADD. Actually calms me down and really helps with my concentration. Today, I get to focus on unpacking and organizing the office at our new home. I started this 2 night ago, got boxes unpacked but now there is stuff everywhere... I really made a big mess instead of getting anything done  So today, I'm headed out to buy a cabinet (so I have somewhere to put all this junk!) and then lots of coffee and hopefully I'll get a lot more accomplished  |
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| I'm in agreement with that theory, and sorry that I am just now seeing this post. When I think back on my childhood, I was a dreamer, and would imagine a better, more beautiful world, than my dad lived, with a mad rushing through life, trying to please all that he also tried impressing. My dad was from Ireland, and lived in the same house, that 6 generations had lived in before him.My first cousion was able to stop the world long enough to get off, and smell a few roses, and was able to buy the old house, both sections.(It was a duplex), and my cousion was the 8th generation. No, he didn't win the sweap stakes, but became smart enough to find his own way, instead of corraling himself with the negitive notion, that you need to please, "The Man" I did a smilar thing, by leaving my home, and building my own, and I have a brother thats proof of that situation. I lived to make my dreams a reality, but still have this, (I need to look for promission.), syndrone, that was instealed in most of us, of working people decent.I refuse to be heald captive of that syndrone, and have the learning ability. I also feel that we restrict ourselves to different directions, and become less familier with certian things, so many of us have to break ourselves from certian molds. Realising this, I see myself keeping stuff that (I might need someday), in order to survive.This mold, I must break, or it will break me. Mike |
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| This is an interesting discussion. My DH is also one of those who can't turn loose of anything and he has often mentioned that if he were a kid now, he'd be on Ritalin at least! And I think I would have been diagnosed with a mild form of autism. We're both a pair of hoarders, just of different types of "stuff!" Confidence is that feeling you have right before you do something really stupid. |
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| My DW has a storage building, that she keeps important stuff in, and it stays locked.Tonight she ask me to get something out for her, and I couldn't believe the clutter. I told her she has a serious problem, hording that level of junk.I have no idea whats in there, because its from floor, to celin. No rest. Mike |
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| One mans Junk is one woman's'' precious heirlooms'' Or at least that is what I have herd my Mom tell my Dad  |
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| I think I still may need ritalin, and I have found out, that if you don't keep up, will say maintience, then you wind up in a clutter problem.My guess is this sort of thing is a sympton of the "Clutter" problem, and maybe there is help, for those of us that proffit from our mistakes.We are as prone to mistakes, as "the sparks are to go upward". Life is full of Wisdom, for those who learn to "gleen"it.I am starting to profit from others mistakes. An acquiantance of mine, witch will be burried Sat., had one mission in life, and that was to be the best salesman, he could be.He has aquired over two million dolars, and fine home, cars, the works. An american dream, but he couldn't tell me what a rose smelled like, nor did he let himself spend much leasure time, an occasional moment of coffee time with us guys, and not very frequently, was always going to meet clients, and stayed on the run.I was surprised that he was only 60 Yrs. old. We were talking about what he left, and how young his wife, and family are, I believe she is 57, and very attractive.As to what he left, well he left every dime, because the new neighbor hood you enter, you arrive, as yor are, and some make provision, and some take chances.I'm afraid he went by chance, after all, he had his life befor him. Its times like this, that I really want to STOP, and evaluate my daily walk, and talk, and hope the neighbor hood has flowers, and approves of my entering. Mike |
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| Well, I've bored plenty of other people with one of my favorite Emily Dickinson poems, so I might as well bore you guys, too: Who has not found the Heaven–below– Will fail it above– For Angels rent the House next ours, Wherever we remove– Confidence is that feeling you have right before you do something really stupid. |
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| I really think Emily Dickinson was closer to the Creator, than those who "Preached" Him from the pulpit. Mike |
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| Oh, don't get me started, Mike! Some keep the Sabbath going to church I keep it staying at home With a bobolink for a chorister And an orchard for a dome. Some keep the Sabbath in surplice, I just wear my wings. And instead of tolling the bell for church Our little sexton sings. God preaches (a noted clergy) And the sermon is never long. So instead of getting to heaven at last, I'm going all along! Might not have that all quite right; typing from memory here.  Confidence is that feeling you have right before you do something really stupid. |
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| Mike..I know I posted previously on your forum here regarding clutter. My daughter went to visit her brother this weekend and she mentioned to me about the way she found his house. She works in a school for special kids with disability and developmental problems, as well as physical handicaps and she recognized that he is ADD big time. I saw some of it back this summer when he was caring for a terminally ill friend. I blamed it on the situation but I think she is right. I wonder if it shocked her to hear me say that the more I learn about ADD, I think I have it at age 68. She is like her Dad..she considers "neating up" a room being organized and clean. I like deep cleaniness but get side tracked accomplishing those tasks. We moved here 5 yrs. ago from a large house, two levels to one level and you'd think I could clean this house in a couple of hours but there's always paper clutter around. Guess we need to call in Peter Walsh! |
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| I love chalanges, they almost always test you first, then give you the lesson. Thats the way I presieve the situation. First question to you, would be; did you move two flours, into one? If so, I would be as frustraded, as a termite in a yo-yo.I say that because Inestine "said that no two object, can occupie the same space". Concider it a law, and you would be shoveling sand into the tide. I trust in the walk, that I have with The Lord, that I have a perminant solution to lifes problems, as long as I know, and keep the prespective with Him. I fermly believe that even ADD can be fixed, even though I have an 18 YO Grand son that is bound to prove wrong, but when he is with me, he leaves a little wiser, than when he came.I can only help so much, but the rest is up to him.When you are teaching, a youngster to ride a bicycle, how long, and how far can you run. Mike |
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