Clay Chat forum: Need help making clay emblems

 
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Pradabear509
Apr 21, 2013 9:27 PM CST
Ok I have a new thing I wanna get into its clays chains but idk where to start I did some research but not much out there to give me what I'm looking for. I wanna know how these ppl make these chains and how they them so perfect to the T, if you don't know what I'm talking about go to YouTube and type clay chains and watch some videos and tell what you think and how you think they make them and what kinda clay you think they use and how you think that make them so perfect please thank you and kind regardsThumb of 2013-04-22/Pradabear509/620ada
Imageimapigeon
Apr 22, 2013 11:39 PM CST
Name: Janet
Gilroy, CA
They look like they might be a low-fire clay blend---maybe made with paper clay. The surface designs might be stencils. Looking at the sparkles, I'm wondering if they used auto paint and baked it onto the fired clay. Would need to see one in person to get better clues....as you said, there's not much info on them.
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ImageSharon
May 22, 2013 11:24 PM CST
Name: Sharon
Kentucky
I've never seen anything like that, have you, Janet?
New to me, but could it be polymer?
Imageimapigeon
Jun 30, 2013 1:10 PM CST
Name: Janet
Gilroy, CA
Could be, Sharon. Hadn't thought of that. People are adding glass, paper, all kinds of stuff to clay bodies these days.
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ImageSharon
Jun 30, 2013 1:30 PM CST
Name: Sharon
Kentucky
Terminology is mixed now too. Old as I am, when I read 'clay' I think only of natural substance from the earth; never think in terms of polymers. And those who work in polymers are confused when I mention coiling or wheel terms or firing, slabs and glazing - so it's confusing all the way around. I think 'sculpting' might be the only common term. Not sure about that because I've only dabbled a bit with polymer clay. Smiling
ImageZanymuse
Jun 30, 2013 3:10 PM CST
Name: Brenda Essig
Rio Dell, CA
Clay chains... Is this what you are asking about?


oops, wrong video. I'll go find the emblem video and add it...

Here it is...


The technique would be the same for any emblem. You could then add any type of finish to the finished product or add beads or crystals by embedding them into the clay before baking.
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ImageSharon
Jun 30, 2013 3:38 PM CST
Name: Sharon
Kentucky
Polymer clay fires in the 260*F range, so the beads and crystals would have to have a higher firing ability than that. Glass fires much higher so if the embellishments are glass it would probably work. Problem is, sometimes those embellishments don't adhere to the clay as it fires. And if they didn't, then you'd need adhesive.

Something about the first picture makes me think the clay contains something to make it speckle and sparkle like that; like it's already in the clay.

I dunno.
ImageSharon
Jun 30, 2013 3:51 PM CST
Name: Sharon
Kentucky
Found this - scroll down, it contains the original image but not much else:

http://www.tumblr.com/tagged/clay candy?before=20

Then I found this:

http://www.claycandyshack.com/

And then this:

http://www.claycandyshack.com/faq.htm

It is made of polymer clay and glitter. Bingo.
And if it is selling at the price quoted in the last link, somebody is making a fortune - if people are buying.
ImageZanymuse
Jun 30, 2013 4:28 PM CST
Name: Brenda Essig
Rio Dell, CA
Glitters can be kneaded into the clay before you shape your piece. I have seen that done and it works beautifully. You can also add it after firing and coat it with a resin to seal it.

Crystals and beads can be embedded before firing and if they pop out a touch of jewelers glue or super glue will reset them nicely into their place.

Designs can be stamped onto the clay with ink or pressed into the clay using a stamp or mold before firing to get that uniformity when making multiple pieces from the same pattern.
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ImageSharon
Jun 30, 2013 4:52 PM CST
Name: Sharon
Kentucky
You are talking about polymer or synthetic 'clay', right Zany?
Because none of that would work with natural clay.

I think Charleen (Ridesredmule) has a forum on polymer clay, and maybe one other person who makes jewelry from it.
ImageZanymuse
Jun 30, 2013 5:15 PM CST
Name: Brenda Essig
Rio Dell, CA
Yes, it would have to be polymer clay, not natural clay.
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lilred557
Aug 28, 2013 4:41 AM CST
Zanymuse wrote:Yes, it would have to be polymer clay, not natural clay.

So like when you do the picture and stuff to the clay do you bake it of put the glitter first.?

ImageZanymuse
Aug 28, 2013 4:47 AM CST
Name: Brenda Essig
Rio Dell, CA
If the glitter is kneaded into the clay you do that before you bake it. Or you can glue the glitter on a finished piece and seal it with clear lacquer to keep it from brushing off.
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lilred557
Aug 28, 2013 10:44 PM CST
Zanymuse wrote:If the glitter is kneaded into the clay you do that before you bake it. Or you can glue the glitter on a finished piece and seal it with clear lacquer to keep it from brushing off.


Where do you buy the lacquer?and when you buy it with the glittler get on your clothes
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ImageZanymuse
Aug 29, 2013 4:39 AM CST
Name: Brenda Essig
Rio Dell, CA
For this type of item, I would use a clear, high gloss, spray on finish. You should be able to find one anywhere that spray paints are sold.
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lilred557
Aug 29, 2013 1:44 PM CST
Zanymuse wrote:For this type of item, I would use a clear, high gloss, spray on finish. You should be able to find one anywhere that spray paints are sold.


Is polymer the only clay necessary for this product.?
ImageZanymuse
Aug 29, 2013 2:51 PM CST
Name: Brenda Essig
Rio Dell, CA
You could use porcelain or pottery clay but that would require a kiln to bake it in and the details would not be as sharp.
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lilred557
Aug 29, 2013 4:51 PM CST
Zanymuse wrote:You could use porcelain or pottery clay but that would require a kiln to bake it in and the details would not be as sharp.


Wht about sculpey us tht a good one
ImageZanymuse
Aug 29, 2013 5:46 PM CST
Name: Brenda Essig
Rio Dell, CA
Yes Sculpey is a well known polymer clay and is great for this type of project.
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lilred557
Aug 30, 2013 11:03 AM CST
Zanymuse wrote:Yes Sculpey is a well known polymer clay and is great for this type of project.


I did one but the back like is uneven n I need to buy that gloss for the chain

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