Personal Testimony forum: My turn.

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ImageLouC
Aug 6, 2010 8:43 PM CST
Name: Christi Gibson
DeSoto Texas
zone 8a
I was fortunate to be raised in a Christian family from the very beginning of my life. At nine years of age my conscious awoke and because of my life long training I realized I was born a sinner and it was necessary to follow certain steps to follow My Lord Jesus Christ.

1. Confess that I was a sinner
2. Ask for forgiveness
3. Believe that Jesus is the Son of God born of a virgin
4. Ask that the Holy Spirit come into my life to guide me
5. Follow Our Lord in obedience and profess my faith before men and be baptized.


From there it was up to me to study the word of God, the Holy Bible. I have done that my entire life. Do not be deceived, as I have wandered far and wide but Jesus never left my side. It only takes the still small voice to ask Him to again guide and be the leader of my life.
As I study the Word, I wander less and less. I would like to say that I have matured in my faith but that is an ongoing, day to day, endeavour. Just when I think I have reached a point of peace, yet another challenge rising before me. He is indeed testing me and teaching me what it means to be a Child of God.

I know without any doubt that I will someday join The Father, and The Son in glory.

I blessed with many other believers that continually help me along this road of life.

Glory be to God.
ImageLouC
Aug 6, 2010 8:46 PM CST
Name: Christi Gibson
DeSoto Texas
zone 8a
I omitted the most important thing of all.

Jesus died on the cross and took on my sin. He was raised from the grave on the third day and was on this earth 40 days before he was taken up into glory.

During those 3 days, I believe he was in Hell and experienced what I would be doomed to for all eternity had He not taken my sin.

My God be glorified.
westraad
Aug 7, 2010 4:43 AM CST
May the Lord continue to teach you in His ways, Christi!
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westraad
Aug 11, 2010 10:56 AM CST
Christi, may i ask you something? i mean no disrespect or offense at all, and i hope you won't take this the wrong way.
You say you believe that the Lord Jesus was in Hell for those three days, yet i find that contrary to Scripture. In Matthew 27:46 we read that the Lord Jesus cried out, "My God, My God, why have You forsaken Me?" God the Father can't take sin, nor can He look on it, so on that cross, the Lord Jesus was carrying our sins, and thats why God the Father couldn't look at Him. if it is true that the Lord Jesus was only punished in Hell those three days, why did He die on the Cross? He just might have well have died a natural death, and taken our sins and been punished in Hell for three days. Also if we read in Mark 16:38, we see the temple's curtain was torn in two. what does this signify? it signifies that the way into God's presence was open by the death of His Son. If you say that the Lord Jesus was punished in Hell for three days, then you are saying that the work was not completed on the Cross, and then the veil could only have been torn when He was resurrected. And in Luke 23:43, the Lord Jesus said to the dying thief, "Assuredly, I say to you, today you will be with Me in Paradise." He didn't say three days from now. also when He gave up His Spirit He said, "Father, into Your hands I commit My spirit." If He committed His spirit to God the Father, how could He have gone to Hell? And in John 19:30 the Lord Jesus said, "It is finished!" if He went to Hell for three days, then He had not yet completed the work of salvation, and could under no circumstances have said that "It is finished!"
Now Christi, you are a very, very dear friend to me, and i don't mean any offense. i know you are much older than i am, yet i find your statement contrary to Scripture. all i ask is that you study the Scriptures, and pray about it.
Love you like a third grandma!
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isaac
ImageLouC
Aug 11, 2010 2:25 PM CST
Name: Christi Gibson
DeSoto Texas
zone 8a
I take no offense and am always open to knowledge, most especially concerning our salvation. I do not know where I was taught concerning the three days in Hell.According the scriptures you have so wonderfully pointed out, my conception was wrong. That is not a belief I have held for all of my life....more in recent years. Age and knowledge are necessarily connected.

Praise God for leading me to you.
westraad
Aug 12, 2010 5:23 AM CST
Glad you understand Christi!! we never stop learning, and it is my prayer that we all may be humble and willing to listen to what the Lord tells us through other Christians. of course we must always go back to the Scriptures, and see if it is truly so.
In the Reformed Church in South africa its a strong doctrine that the Lord Jesus was in Hell, so thats why I knew about it. unfortunately there are many people who refuse to look to the Scriptures and see that they are wrong, but would rather cling to church tradition.

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isaac
ImageLouC
Aug 12, 2010 9:33 AM CST
Name: Christi Gibson
DeSoto Texas
zone 8a
Meant to say age and knowledge ARE NOT necessarily connected.
westraad
Aug 12, 2010 10:50 AM CST
lol, i figured that!
ImageChristine27360
Aug 16, 2010 9:36 PM CST
Name: Christine
Southeast MN
Maybe it came from the Apostle's Creed (that is repeated in many churches)

I believe in God, the Father Almighty,
the Maker of heaven and earth,
and in Jesus Christ, His only Son, our Lord:

Who was conceived by the Holy Ghost,
born of the virgin Mary,
suffered under Pontius Pilate,
was crucified, dead, and buried;

He descended into hell.

The third day He arose again from the dead;

He ascended into heaven,
and sitteth on the right hand of God the Father Almighty;
from thence he shall come to judge the quick and the dead.

I believe in the Holy Ghost;
the holy catholic church;
the communion of saints;
the forgiveness of sins;
the resurrection of the body;
and the life everlasting.

Here is an interesting link from the reformed church on this subject.
http://www.reformed.org/documents/index.html?mainframe=http:...

Once in the link -- click on "Calvin" link next to the line He descended into hell.

Enjoying God's creation one leaf at a time.
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ImageLouC
Aug 16, 2010 9:43 PM CST
Name: Christi Gibson
DeSoto Texas
zone 8a
Christine, thank you for joining our posts. I knew that somewhere in my past there was a reference to Jesus going to hell. After reading the scriptures offered by Isaac, I have to question that reference. The rest of the Creed is without question.

DH was Methodist before our marriage and I attended church with him many times. Perhaps that is where I learned this.
westraad
Aug 17, 2010 5:27 AM CST
Yes, it is also in the creed of the Dutch Reformed Church in South Africa. But if we compare it to Scripture, we see it is in error.
ImageDebbie
Aug 19, 2010 3:28 PM CST
Name: Debbie
Denham Springs, La zone 8b
That was awesome Isaac. Thank you for explaining it so well. You are right, it is a common error that people are making now days. I believe it started (and I may be incorrect), when Carman sang about it in one of his songs several years back. It went sort of like this " the demons were on HIm, and all of a sudden God said' that is enough' and then Jesus beat them up. Something like that.
But your are exactly correct in what you posted. All of the work was completed on the Cross. There is even a doctrine saying that Jesus became sin for us. Noooo. He became a sin offering for us. Remember when the Jewish priest had to inspect to the inth degree the lambs that were offered for sin. Jesus was indeed the spotless lamb sacrifice for us. He had no sin or God would not have excepted His offering. And I love it in Hebrews were it says

11 And every priest standeth daily ministering and offering oftentimes the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins: 12 But this man, after he had offered ONE sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God; 13 From henceforth expecting till his enemies be made his footstool. 14 For by one offering he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified.
(Heb 10:10-14).
ImageDebbie
Aug 19, 2010 3:35 PM CST
Name: Debbie
Denham Springs, La zone 8b
And I love the tenth chapter of Hebrews where The Lord said this:

CHAPTER 10
1 For the law having a shadow of good things to come, and not the very image of the things, can never with those sacrifices which they offered year by year continually make the comers thereunto perfect.
2 For then would they not have ceased to be offered? because that the worshippers once purged should have had no more conscience of sins.
3 But in those sacrifices there is a remembrance again made of sins every year.
4 For it is not possible that the blood of bulls and of goats should take away sins.
5 Wherefore when he cometh into the world, he saith, Sacrifice and offering thou wouldest not, but a body hast thou prepared me:
6 In burnt offerings and sacrifices for sin thou hast had no pleasure.

I especially love this verse:

7 THEN SAID I, LO, I COME (in the volume of the book it is written of me,) to do thy will, O God.

8 Above when he said, Sacrifice and offering and burnt offerings and offering for sin thou wouldest not, neither hadst pleasure therein; which are offered by the law;
9 Then said he, Lo, I come to do thy will, O God. He taketh away the first, that he may establish the second.
10 By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.
(Heb 10:1-10).
ImageLouC
Aug 19, 2010 7:35 PM CST
Name: Christi Gibson
DeSoto Texas
zone 8a
And they all said, AMEN AND AMEN.
ImageDebbie
Aug 20, 2010 2:37 AM CST
Name: Debbie
Denham Springs, La zone 8b
I just love you Christi. When I see you , I'm going to hug you to pieces.! I've been studying the Tabernacle for the last few hours. I better get to sleep before my hubby wakes up and finds me on this computer.

See ya'll later today.
westraad
Aug 20, 2010 4:52 AM CST
Debbie, Hebrews is such wonderful book!!! i love reading it, its so precious. yes, the doctrine of justification is so precious. even though He was completely perfect, He bore our sin, and took the punishment, even though He was completely innocent. And because of His perfect life, He can give us HIS righteousness, even though we are not perfect. Yesterday we explained to my Muslim neighbor what had happened on the cross, and she was absolutely amazed and shocked, that God's only Son, had been willing to bear the punishment for EVERY sin committed and what will be committed by man. even though he was spotless and blameless!
i thought about it afterwards, and realized how often we get so used to it, it doesn't touch us anymore. i pray that the Lord will reveal to us the wonder of justification.
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ImageDebbie
Aug 20, 2010 6:19 AM CST
Name: Debbie
Denham Springs, La zone 8b
You are so right Isaac. You preach just like Brother Swaggart. They are on live right now. See if this link will work for you. I think you will enjoy it, so much. http://www.jsm.org/SonlifeNetwork_000.php

westraad
Aug 22, 2010 5:20 AM CST
Hi Debbie! Thanks for the link, but unfortunately our internet is too slow to watch videos on the internet. But thanks anyway!
how are you doing? i got a bit of the flu, me and my mom. its traveling around here, changing of seasons. we are about to enter spring...
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