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By Sharon Brown on January 7, 2011

As Cubits grows, so does our writing experience. Writing online involves legal responsibility. Here are some tips and a bit of advice to help you write the perfect article (and to keep you from stumbling after it's published).

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Val
Jan 8, 2011 2:18 AM CST
Name: Val
Ohio
Thanks for taking the time to write it.

I'm one of those people who really appreciates and uses cited sources that writers provide. I really do use them a lot in some of the subjects that I study. In fact, I was a member of a few forums that required us to provide sources (when asked) for posts where we stated things to be facts. If I find an article on the internet, I first look for whether they cite any sources and what those sources are. If I like the article, I may trace back and read their sources too.

I've heard a few people tell me that if they don't earn a profit from what they write then the fair use clause doesn't apply. I don't know what to say to them. All I know is I am very uncomfortable with not asking permission or sometimes not even bothering to publish the authors name. It just doesn't feel right to me. I just unsubbed from a group (not a cubit) last month for this reason.

I have a question. I have some pictures that I copied from the internet that were labeled as public domain such as this one:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:God_of_Etang_sur_Arroux_po...
If it's public domain, do I cite the source? I've never been sure how it works with pictures like this. I want to write articles for my personal use only but I want to cite my sources properly just in case someday I decide to publish them.
ImageSharon
Jan 8, 2011 10:17 AM CST
Name: Sharon
Kentucky
Hi Val,

Public Domain is a little different. In that instance look at the info below the photo. To be safe you need to cite what's given: the date, source, and author. It doesn't include the author's name in this particular photo, but it does mention something about it being photographed. You can also look at the words that follow about the licensing. There might be something there as well that needs to be cited. Not in this particular picture, though...but in others.

There is one problem, other countries have different laws that apply. This photo seems to have come from France and might be the property of a museum. Since that's the case, you should cite France in your attribution if it is ever published. It's always good to have too much information, as opposed to too little.

As for info being free to use if it wasn't 'paid for'...well, that isn't true. If they are another's words and you have lifted them from a website, even from a chat thread, they aren't yours. You can quote them within the same website, (just like we can quote people on Cubits and DG within the threads) but you can't take them away from it without citing. You can put the idea into your own words, and cite the idea, but you shouldn't do anything without citing.

It really isn't as complicated as it sounds. To be on the safe side, just simply cite the source every time you use something that came from another person.

I hope this helps. Thanks for the question.
Val
Jan 8, 2011 11:34 AM CST
Name: Val
Ohio
Is there a place on the writer's cubit where people can ask questions like this about fair use and sources? Is there a place on the cubit to ask questions about article outlines? This is something that I may need help with when I get closer to putting my info into articles.

I've had the experience of someone lifting my words and then publishing them on his blog as his own. I didn't like it. If he had simply first asked and gave me credit, I would have been fine with it. I wouldn't do that to anyone else.

There have been a couple of times when I've asked people if I could post their words on other sites. I privately e-mailed them stating exactly what I wanted to post and exactly where I wanted to post it. They gave me permission and I noted that along with their name and where and when it was first posted (it was factual information on linguistics that I really couldn't put into my own words). I'm not sure what is proper but I did my best to make sure that the person was credited correctly.

I just wanted to thank you again for writing this article. It will help me when I start writing my own articles.
ImageSharon
Jan 8, 2011 11:43 AM CST
Name: Sharon
Kentucky
Val, there isn't a place yet on the Writer's and Words Cubit for this type of question, BUT I am getting ready to set up a forum for it and for all the other questions that have been asked. I will do that over the weekend.

When It's done I'll leave a link to it on each of the threads here. Until now, I didn't realize there were so many who were interested.

You were right to ask permission when you used the words of others, and again you were right when you credited them in the way that you did.

A lot of it is common sense and courtesy, and I think you followed that perfectly. Too bad it isn't always reciprocated.

I'll let you know when I have the writers' forum set up. I might have it done by the end of the day, and if not, then tomorrow.

Thank you, I'm looking forward to your articles. I hope you share them with all of us.
Imagechelle
Jan 8, 2011 12:45 PM CST
Name: chelle
N.E. Indiana
I'm proud to be a Charley's Girl!
Sharran wrote:Val, there isn't a place yet on the Writer's and Words Cubit for this type of question, BUT I am getting ready to set up a forum for it and for all the other questions that have been asked. I will do that over the weekend.

When It's done I'll leave a link to it on each of the threads here. Until now, I didn't realize there were so many who were interested.


I'll let you know when I have the writers' forum set up. I might have it done by the end of the day, and if not, then tomorrow.


Hurray! Please excuse my emotional display, (hee, hee) but I'm elated now!!!

Humbly awaiting additional news of these wonderful developments! Big Grin

ImageSharon
Jan 8, 2011 12:52 PM CST
Name: Sharon
Kentucky
Ha, Chelle.
I sure hope you all are good researchers, because I know for sure I don't have all the answers.
I also know for sure that together we can figure it out.

So...I'm working on it!
ImageSharon
Jan 9, 2011 1:08 AM CST
Name: Sharon
Kentucky
Here's the new writers' forum:

http://cubits.org/writing101/forums/view/articlewritersforum...
Val
Jan 9, 2011 8:53 PM CST
Name: Val
Ohio
Thanks! Now I know where to go to ask questions. Thumbs up
ImageSharon
Jan 9, 2011 9:11 PM CST
Name: Sharon
Kentucky
Let's just hope we can find the answers!!

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