Growing Tips forum: tips up
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| Hey Carol: This is going to sound so dumb but I'm just going to break down and ask. I have a hoya that's lost its growing tip. Do they ever grow back or should I cut off the first set of leaves to produce a new grow tip. This is kenejana. It's been a couple of months and no grow tip. Thanks, Susan |
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| Hmmmmm In my experience, some do put out a growing tip from the old node, others not and that stem just sits there looking amputated!!! A new growing tip WILL come from somewhere on the plant as they need to grow...sometimes from the root, sometimes from a leaf node but you don't have to cut off the leaves for it to form. I would fertilize you stalled plant with a high nitrogen fertilizer now .... Leap. The net will appear. |
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| Is Miracle Grow enough with Superthrive? That's what I use on all my plants. This particular plant is from an online vendor that I've had for about 3 months. It has lovely leaves but it is very small and has not grown since I've had it. It's in a 2 1/2 inch pot. I figure that the growing tip must be the problem because since you started this thread, I've had my plants growing at a better speed. |
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| Miracle Grow is a good enough fert. for hoyas but not one I would use as it is very high in salts. I look for 10-15-10 ratio, if I can find it... Superthrive is basically a rooting hormone with some Vit. B added to it. Hormex is virtually the same product (I am told by people who should know) and cheaper. Superthrives' patent ran out some years back so they don't have the exclusive on the formula. For good growth Iwould use a fish emulsion or some chicken manure. Leap. The net will appear. |
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| oooh, Carol, lol, don't have any chicken manure around or chickens, for that matter.:) Years ago, when I started with hoyas, I would never have dreamed to use MG but in the past couple of years, I've had amazing growth with it. Now, I have another question for the expert. A couple of years ago, I received a H. Kerri from Accents for Home and Garden. One part died off and all that is left is a leaf with a bloom spur. It is in a 4 inch clay pot. It has never grown one bit and I began thinking that it was just a rooted leaf and that is all I could hope for. Anyway, this week, it bloomed. Now my question, do you think I should move it up to a larger pot and that is what's keeping it from putting out new growth? BTW, do you have starter plants of macrophylla, purpeo-fusca, cinnamomifolia etc etc or have I already asked you? LOL! TGFC! (thank goodness for Carol) |
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| I agree that MG gives plants a good "kick in the...." and I use it as a folliar spray from time to time. Actually, I hit all my 12 acres with it every couple of months. ANYTHING with a high nitrogen number would do.... You could probably talk to the folks who take care of the gardens at the University...and ask them for a Tablespoon of a good nitrogen rich fert....they usually have manure around for the plantings. The reason I like to use manure (and yu can buy it commercially all dried and clean and stuff) is that it is organic and contains lots of minerals and 'natural' stuff hoyas lack when fed with chemicals. AH...H. kerrii. When the bloom finishes, I would tip the plant out and check on the roots. If you have a full 4" pots' worth of roots, I would just put it back in the same pot. If half of the roots are dead, cut them off and repot into a pot where the roots are snug....no room to dance. I would give it the same as the other plant....you want to encourage growth... Nope...don't have those that you are looking for....but I am putting together some 'lot' buys - a tray of 10 plants for a disgustingly low price. Some are named, some are NOIDs... I am serious about not wanting to take care of stuff anymore. Even my husband is on notice!!!!  Leap. The net will appear. |
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| oh I would love to have noids as well as the names. Make sure I get a notice!!! Can't wait. I work at a community college, no university. LOL!!! We do offer a horticulture certificate so maybe I'll check with the instructor! |
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| ROFL, Carol! And I have no willpower this year  so please send me notice of your "lot" sale, too, when you've put the trays together. Thanks!Circles of Support for Breast Cancer I'm learning to dance in the rain! Thank you, Sally & Chris & Sharon. |
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| In the middle of the night I awoke to realize that Eriostemmas (ciliata, cv. Ruthie, coronaria, lauterbachii etc.) DO NOT react this way to having their tips hang down....in fact, they bloom from the hanging down vines!!!! This is often why they are so hard to grow indoors as their habit is to grow high up into the trees where they get full sun and then hang down and bloom. They grow hanging down until they reach the ground and then they root and travel and root and travel until they find another structure to climb UP..... Leap. The net will appear. |
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| LOL So, if the tips are leafless, then get them pointed skyward? Circles of Support for Breast Cancer I'm learning to dance in the rain! Thank you, Sally & Chris & Sharon. |
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| It's about the growing tip, Jill...leaves or no leaves....it needs to be going UP... Leap. The net will appear. |
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| Been planning to plant this one also but I think it's kinda hard. now I know how to do it. |
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AlohaHoya wrote:In the middle of the night I awoke to realize that Eriostemmas (ciliata, cv. Ruthie, coronaria, lauterbachii etc.) DO NOT react this way to having their tips hang down....in fact, they bloom from the hanging down vines!!!! This is often why they are so hard to grow indoors as their habit is to grow high up into the trees where they get full sun and then hang down and bloom. They grow hanging down until they reach the ground and then they root and travel and root and travel until they find another structure to climb UP..... Hmm, then I´ll rewire my Eristemmas on the trellises. Sometimes you get the best ideas in the night...  Regards Daniel Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. Albert Einstein |
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| Daniel...they want to grow up or horizontally and in as much sun as you can give them!!!! Leap. The net will appear. |
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| Hmm, sounds like I got something wrong!? Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. Albert Einstein |
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| Like Carol said - grow them up or horizontally, it doesn't matter to them as long as they get a whole lot of sun. I have never had a leafless vine on an eriostemma-the leaves grow as the vines grow, the plants are simply growing fiends. Only one of mine has flowered - cv 'Optimistic' and they're all in the same very, very bright window. However last year we had our tree removed from the yard they face, so I have much higher hopes for the other two now (cv 'Ruthie' and H/E lauterbachii). Christine |
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| OH yes...Christine...that is such good news!!!!! Leap. The net will appear. |
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And, wouldn't you know it, cv. 'Ruthie' has a bunch of buds now! I'm as excited as a little girl on her first pony ride, but still refuse to baby it. I've never transplanted it since I got it 6 years ago and it is as much a grow fiend as any other, covering half of the large window its in (due to my vigilance in keeping its vines to its own side). I printed out a picture of the flowers its supposed to have, and have it close to the plant. Yes, I know, I'm weird).  Christine |
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CeeDub wrote:I printed out a picture of the flowers its supposed to have, and have it close to the plant. Yes, I know, I'm weird). lol, the power of imagination....  Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. Albert Einstein |
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