Identification forum: Interesting study of a flower

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Aug 20, 2010 8:44 PM CST
Name: Carol Noel
Hawaii (near Hilo)
It's all about choices.

One of the members of the Hoya Club in Thailand posted this photo illustration she calls Evolution of a Flower. She took flowers from the same umbel on a hoya over a period of days: 1)newly opened 2)in the middle and )3going out.... the photos of the buds she had a longer evolution. Anyway, I found it fascinating how parts of the flower seemed so change and really evolve over that short period of time - the life of a flower....

I know that David Liddle mentioned that he made a point to photograph or study a flower within the first stage of that he was comparing flowers at the same state of maturing...

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Aug 21, 2010 10:41 AM CST
Name: Dominic Murray
Lanzarote, Canary Islands

A question on this, with so much strength being placed on a plant being named matching field drawings done many years ago......whats to say the flower parts werent drawn at an early stage in their development throwing an even bigger spanner into the works over trying to identify/ match them now....because they do go thru quite a change in their develpoment, shape if a plant was drawn in an early stage of growth, and we are trying to match a plant in its final growth stage..they are never going to match as no drawing was ever done in this final you get my drift?
Aug 21, 2010 10:45 AM CST
Name: Lee Anne Stark
Ontario, Canada
Perpetually happy!
I agree
Aug 21, 2010 10:52 AM CST
Name: Carol Noel
Hawaii (near Hilo)
It's all about choices.
Totally, Dom. My reasoning exactly. I was blown away by the differences!! And the reconstituting of the dried flowers MORE warped views....

So....what's the alternative? As is, I don't see that we have one except to accept the opinions of opinions....and not put too much store in all the nitpicking...unless it is a dna analysis.
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Jan 7, 2011 12:23 PM CST
Carol thank you for your interesting this album. This album, I get idea from Corona and anther skirt in Hoya (Apocynaceae, Marsdenieae) of Henning Kunze Livia Wanntorp this paper can explain evolution of Hoya by 4 picture.

Jan 7, 2011 2:03 PM CST
Name: Carol Noel
Hawaii (near Hilo)
It's all about choices.
Lots of conversations about colors and forms change...and people think NEW SPECIES and run to publish!!!

I am MORE and MORE convinced we have fewer species and simply different clones of a few. This does not diminish the genus at all...variations are interesting. Look at how many we have among Homo sapiens!
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