Growing Tips forum: rain,rain,rain H.polyneura not happy at all

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Imagejohoya
Sep 1, 2012 11:29 AM CST
Name: Jelinda Ivey
Thomson,Ga.
zone 8a
I am unable to provide picture's at this time,i will apologize if i ramble (i know i do) here's the best description i can provide without pictures of the plant.
I have been in the hospital for a few weeks.I hired a lady to care for my plants.I was under the impression she wasn't new to caring for plants and said she had a good many.Next time i will ask for the names of her plants.
We had surprise rainstorms the whole time i was gone.Even with a place to put specific ones in case of to much rain or get out of sun etc... I left a list!!

When i got home i could see the yellow leaves on my H.polyneura from the window!!! Angry I have noticed this Hoya rarely ever drops a leaf,they will rot on the stem.As my hubby pushed me up the hill to my plants,not sure who was saying more ugly words!! Grumbling Me or the hubby!
When i got to it could have fell out of my wheelchair,the help will be paid in mushy,yellow leaves.

One side of the plant seems to be worse than the other.I'm sure it has some root rot.Small,new growth,stems with 4 to 6 sets of leaves i have already pulled for rot.Some of the older mature stems have lost their green healthy color,turning tan & not easily bending starting at soil level, with the stem greening as you go down.As the stems look healthier nice healthy leaves appear.
With problem stems starting at soil level,should i cut good healthy cutting's from these and discard rest w/roots.
The pot is very root bound,i guess with all the rain running through the pot makes the roots very visible & noticeable.Looking even more root bound.The plant has dried out,put in an open airy place.

This is an EA plant still in EA soil.
EA is good at filling pots with bunches of rootings!
what type soil is best for this plant ?

Should the plant be trimmed to start a new plant for a back-up plant and a smaller trimmed plant may recover easier & quicker. If the plant does make it.

How easy does the H. polyneura root ? Would it be a better use of my time to take cuttings & work at propagating them and re-pot original plant in another pot?
I asked for a flower and he gave me a garden,then grand-kids to work in it with me!!!!
AlohaHoya
Sep 1, 2012 1:35 PM CST
Name: Carol Noel
Hawaii (near Hilo)
It's all about choices.
Hmmmmm. You write a good description of the problems.

#1 - EA plants are in a medium full of 'water crystals'...little things that absorb and hold moisture so the plants won't die in the big box stores when the help doesn't water. EA plants are fine growing indoors or in places like Arizona...not where there is a lot of moisture. I cannot grow any EA plant for that reason...
#2 - H. polyneura likes to dry out between waterings (another reason I cannot grow it).
#3 - The constant moisture/water literally chokes the roots...and then they rot. Sad

You could approach this both ways:

1. Take the entire root ball and plant and cut away EVERYthing that is not alive....EVERYTHING. Rinse whatever you have left in water with a bit of cinnamon in it (it's anti fungal and doesn't hurt the roots). If you have some live material from the plant, cut off half of it and re-start them in a very lose mix...maybe just perlite...and see if you can't re-root them.

2. Take the remaining roots and replant them in a lose mix of orchid bark (or any other really lose medium....something air gets through) and perlite and put it in a shady spot that gets good air circulation and indirect bright light.

This is what I would do... Sorry to hear you had to go to hospital... sure hope you are feeling better now. Part of the MS?

Do you know how to tell if the roots are fresh and not rotted? I use 2 ways:

1. With clippers I start clipping root away until I get to a section where there is some 'milk' that comes out (dip your clippers in alchohol after each cut so you don't pass the rot to healthy spots)...
2. Between my thumb and a finger, I roll the root rather hard to see if the cuticle (skin) of the root comes off. If it doesn, it is rotten.

Good luck. Let me know how it works out and if I can help in any other way....

Aloha,
Carol
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Susan727
Sep 1, 2012 2:07 PM CST
Sorry I do not grow polyneura. Just wanted to say that I'm sorry you're having health problems and hope things will get better soon.

Best of luck with your plant.

Susan
AlohaHoya
Sep 3, 2012 6:03 PM CST
Name: Carol Noel
Hawaii (near Hilo)
It's all about choices.
Jelinda...how are you doing? Lovey dubby
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Imagejohoya
Sep 4, 2012 12:56 PM CST
Name: Jelinda Ivey
Thomson,Ga.
zone 8a
thanks for all the concern and help with my plants!! If i didn't have my plants to worry,fret & obsess over,lets don't forget to ramble on & on & on about, i would worry myself literally to death about the MS.At times it really kicks my butt,then it seems like something in me says "ok my plants are all going to be dead if i don't get home". It's a great motivator to make it through the pain,aggravation,loss of mobility and i just push on til it goes back into remission!! Hurray!

Carol, you have been a blessing,you make it past the rambling,babbling and always seem to answer a question i'm not always sure i actually asked. Rolling on the floor laughing

I do apologize but will say believe it or not it's also part of the MS.Lesions on my brain make it hard to stay on topic or hell remember which plant i had a question about.

Will let you know how the plant turns out.I have never used only perlite before how do you judge moisture and how moist should whatever i root it in be kept?

Group hug
I asked for a flower and he gave me a garden,then grand-kids to work in it with me!!!!
Susan727
Sep 4, 2012 4:10 PM CST
My niece has MS as well but so far she hasn't had too many side effect except that the meds wipe her out!

Susan
AlohaHoya
Sep 5, 2012 11:34 AM CST
Name: Carol Noel
Hawaii (near Hilo)
It's all about choices.
I am having problems with posting a msg. and ending it with an icon...the whole message is erased!!!

My nephew is a Glass Blower in Langley Washington and has MS. Image...a Glass Blower!!! He uses marijuana and finds it really helps... Legal in Washington!!!!

I would use perlite mixed with a chunky bark and use a selfwatering pot if you put it outside.... But your rains seem to have been a fluke...so if you grow it under cover, put more organic matter in it.

Can't use an icon....but would put up the pink one with hearts!!!!
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Imagejohoya
Sep 5, 2012 8:16 PM CST
Name: Jelinda Ivey
Thomson,Ga.
zone 8a
you are a sweet bunch of folks!!! Group hug Lovey dubby

Is there a period i need to let the stems dry out or callous up before putting in soil or any medium or is using the cinnamon enough? I have used it when plants break such as a big succulent leaf on a leaf rooting of a epi broke after it fell and i put cinnamon across the leaf on the break,it healed up nicely without a single problem.


thanks for the advice and such informed advice it always is !! Hurray!
I asked for a flower and he gave me a garden,then grand-kids to work in it with me!!!!
AlohaHoya
Sep 6, 2012 11:31 AM CST
Name: Carol Noel
Hawaii (near Hilo)
It's all about choices.
I would just shake off or rinse off as much of the old medium as you gently can...then repotting it and barely watering it in. I have never been successful repotting EA plants (and goodness knows I have tried!!!) as they just won't grow for me in this humidity. They are meant to be grown indoors, I guess.

Take care!!!
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