Hoya Propagation forum: Replacing Hydroton

 
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AlohaHoya
Mar 2, 2013 1:16 PM CST
Name: Carol Noel
Hawaii (near Hilo)
It's all about choices.
When I went for some more Hydroton, I was told it was 'pau' which means in Hawaiian that it is 'finished'. Apparently they are no longer making it...who ever
'they' are. So I bought the new replacement (around here growing 'weed' is a BIG industry and the 'Hydroponic Store' does a rousing business)...called Grow Stones.

Skeptical, I brought my little 'sample' bag home to try out. I broke some of the bigger pieces up to be smaller...set a cutting in it just like hydroton and in 2 weeks was gifted with nice starter roots. Wish the photo of the cutting were clear, but it came out all blurry...(excitement, I guess). I am sold. The stuff is great. It stays 'damp' much longer than Hydroton even without sitting in a shallow dish of water. Next I will try a cutting of H. callistophylla which is a real bugger for me to root.... Here is the pot of Grow Stones...Thumb of 2013-03-02/AlohaHoya/01166b
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Imageogolland
Mar 2, 2013 2:12 PM CST
Name: Olesya Golland
New Jersey
Interesting....As long as it does the job... I looked at the picture first and it looks like you picked some rocks from your back yard. Smiling
AlohaHoya
Mar 2, 2013 7:18 PM CST
Name: Carol Noel
Hawaii (near Hilo)
It's all about choices.
They are really strange....like sanding stones. Very light like perlite. I was skeptical but now I am most pleased!!!!
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Imageogolland
Mar 2, 2013 7:53 PM CST
Name: Olesya Golland
New Jersey
They are strange...just need some time to get used to it. Smiling I think.. the fact that throws you off is their look - rock shapes. Smiling
Imageogolland
Mar 2, 2013 7:55 PM CST
Name: Olesya Golland
New Jersey
I will definitely keep my eyes open for these 'rocks'....interesting to know if we'll have them here as well. Stores are just starting to bring in spring stuff....
plumania
Mar 2, 2013 8:41 PM CST
Name: Alka
South Florida
Looks and sounds a bit like pumice. I am glad you found the alternative to the hydroton. I would also like to know what is the trade name of this stuff ...may be a picture...so I can begin hunting for it too.

Meanwhile I am thinking ,what is going to happen to orchid mixes? They have so much hydroton mixed in, are they going to have this rock now? Whistling
cicada
Mar 2, 2013 9:55 PM CST
Kentucky
Growstones are made from crushed recycled glass.

http://www.growstone.com/
AlohaHoya
Mar 2, 2013 10:52 PM CST
Name: Carol Noel
Hawaii (near Hilo)
It's all about choices.
Shirley...THANK YOU!! The folks here had no information. I am definitely going to buy a bag...and...I have found, they are lighter (in weight) to hydroton and actually I like them better!!!

I did go thru the bag and take out the large 'stones' and break them...thinking the are too large. But when I buy the bag I will grow some cuttings out in the large pieces...probable won't make a diff.
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plumania
Mar 3, 2013 9:49 AM CST
Name: Alka
South Florida
Shirley, thanks for the link.
Read the description, it is made of glass.....like puffed up glass particles from recycled bottles.They powder the glass and then put it through some kind of blower to make the particles puffy.
I checked out one place in Tampa(Florida) and they charge $28.50 for a 1.25 cu ft size bag ,plus shipping and handling.
I am not sure whether to get it yet....to expensive. Plus, I still have some hydroton supply from previous shopping...so I will wait till that is gone.

But still, sounds like it is a good alternative. Specially since it is lighter than Hydroton,like Carol said. Good discovery Carol. Thumbs up
Imageogolland
Mar 18, 2013 4:37 PM CST
Name: Olesya Golland
New Jersey
Any other new news/experiences with these new 'rocks'? Are they better than hydroton?
AlohaHoya
Mar 18, 2013 6:55 PM CST
Name: Carol Noel
Hawaii (near Hilo)
It's all about choices.
I find it VERY good!! Better than...? Since they aren't making Hydroton anymore...yes it is better than...HAHA. I am VERY pleased with how it rooted my test plant....!!!!
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Imageogolland
Mar 19, 2013 5:13 AM CST
Name: Olesya Golland
New Jersey
Carol, do you crush it into very small pieces for rooting a cutting?
AlohaHoya
Mar 19, 2013 11:36 AM CST
Name: Carol Noel
Hawaii (near Hilo)
It's all about choices.
I did an experiment; one pot I broke up some of the larger pieces (about half of the pieces) and the other pot I didn't. It didn't seem to make a difference. It holds the water a very very long time which is good for rooting... Actually, it holds moisture, not water!
Leap. The net will appear.
Imageogolland
Mar 19, 2013 3:17 PM CST
Name: Olesya Golland
New Jersey
Hmmm....interesting! Smiling
AlohaHoya
May 22, 2013 9:00 PM CST
Name: Carol Noel
Hawaii (near Hilo)
It's all about choices.
I rooted a H. pottsii in the large Growstones...they rooted quickly (2-3 weeks) and nice healthy roots...they didn't cling to the growstones, either, when I pulled them out. So here's a photo of the hydroton replacements: The small sized Growstones are about twice as expensive as Perlite...but I like it much more as it retains/holds the water for AGES!!!! I am going to try a mix of the small Growstones and my orchid bark. The Hydrocorn is just like Hydroton but it is rougher and a wee bit irregular. I had to pay 50$ for 50 litres - really expensive, so I am sticking with Growstones which were about $27 for the same sized bag. Lighter in weight too.Thumb of 2013-05-23/AlohaHoya/d3a0f4
Thumb of 2013-05-23/AlohaHoya/6be600
Thumb of 2013-05-23/AlohaHoya/dd8f0c

I may even try to grow a whole plant in the large Growstones as well as the small ones with a really small amount of orchid bark. Putting in too much orchid bark might create mud in the bottom of the pot when the bark starts to break down due to better moisture retention of the growstones..... Blinking H. callistophylla would LOVE it...as would the other patterned leaf Hoyas that like moisture but nothing soggy around their feet....
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Imageogolland
May 23, 2013 11:03 AM CST
Name: Olesya Golland
New Jersey
I will look around now...see if I have it at my local garden centers/stores. Smiling
Imageknghoyas
May 23, 2013 7:36 PM CST
Name: Kim Tipton
Western NY
Hi Carol

I stuck a bunch of cuttings today, This batch all went into Hydrocorn. I'll let you know what I think in a couple months.

And by the way, Thank You
AlohaHoya
May 23, 2013 11:36 PM CST
Name: Carol Noel
Hawaii (near Hilo)
It's all about choices.
Kim...you will have good roots sooner than a couple of months!!! The stuff is great! And I think I like the Growstones even more... Rolling my eyes.
Leap. The net will appear.
dobrzynd
May 29, 2013 5:59 PM CST
I am using the grows tones too and i love them even more than the hydroton! Thumbs up
AlohaHoya
May 29, 2013 10:43 PM CST
Name: Carol Noel
Hawaii (near Hilo)
It's all about choices.
I think I do too, dobrzynd...!
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