UK Relatives forum: Look Up and Help Requests

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Feb 16, 2010 6:22 AM CST
Name: Carol
Lincolnshire, UK
Post a request for a look up here.
If you are asking for information, please give as much as you can about the individual/family. A full name and date and place of birth are more likely to bring results than anything else.

I won't be around for a while, so help requests may not get a response for some time if they have to wait for me. Others may be along who can help so its still worth a try!

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Feb 16, 2010 1:23 PM CST
Name: darius
SW VA Blue Ridge Mountains
Wow, what a great gift you are giving us, Carol! Thanks.

Here's what I have, correct or not:
My British ancestor in question is Francis Hardesty. He was born 10 May 1671 at Hampswaithe, Yorkshire. I have a record saying he was baptised that same day in Hampswaithe, and another that puts the location as Hollins, Yorks. (taken from the book The British Roots of Maryland Families II) Francis migrated to Anne Arundel County, Maryland at some point, married in 1703, and died in 1734.

His father was Thomas Hardesty, born 1641 in Hampswaithe, who married Mary Favell (born in Burnsall, Yorkshire 1633). They were married in St. Peter's Church, Leeds in 1665. His grandfather was William Hardesty, 1605.

I know few records were kept regarding travel/immigration/emigration since the Colonies were an extension of the British Empire. I also know nothing of the family (here or there) including occupation(s), status in the community, etc. I find no land grant records here so I'm pretty sure they had no money or influence.

Thanks again,

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Feb 17, 2010 5:59 PM CST
Name: Carol
Lincolnshire, UK
Hi Darius, Still digging but have some points of interst for you at

Feb 17, 2010 10:40 PM CST
Hi and what a wonderful thing this is!
I will get back with more information but my
name of interest is Rutland.
Glad to have found this thread!
Feb 17, 2010 11:05 PM CST
Name: Janet Colvin
Z8~Beaumont~Southeast Texas
Proud member of
CJ, it would probably help Carol to keep things more organized if you start a new thread with your family name. She's a jewel and we appreciate her willingness to dig out these roots. It's amazing the history she's been uncovering.
Jan 17, 2011 4:27 PM CST
Name: Donna Yates
Happy Jack, AZ - Zone 5a
Carol, is it the whole UK that you are offering to help with or just England?
I have been researching my Gillis ancestry since 1953 and we (7 cousins and myself) are stuck with Angis/Angus Gillis, the earliest we have found him is 1799 in Missouri (Louisiana Territory.) We are assuming he was Scottish. His wife's name was Mary or Polly.

Jan 18, 2011 2:31 PM CST
Name: Carol
Lincolnshire, UK
Scotland is difficult because like Ireland, the records are separate from the English ones. Scotland's People (see our Links page for details) as a resource may be worth a search, but I don't have any better access to that than anyone else.

I had a quick look and can't find any records in England for an Angus Gillis. Angus is definitely a Scottish first name, and although there are Gillis' all over England by the 1840's, so is his surname. I would think it originated from Ghillie, a highland Gamekeeper, I found a couple of references to Ghillies actually spelt Gillis. So I think you are right to look in Scotland. Do you have any idea when he may have left the UK?

Otherwise, sorry, there is not much else I can add.

Jan 18, 2011 4:52 PM CST
Name: Donna Yates
Happy Jack, AZ - Zone 5a
No idea at all where Angus Gillis was born, or if he immigrated from Scotland or Nova Scotia. He's just one big dead end that is driving us all bonkers. I have searched all spellings I can think of for Gillis, even Gillespie and etc.

I really didn't expect an answer, I was just curious, you never know when someone will pop up with the data one needs. Group hug
Jan 18, 2011 8:14 PM CST
Name: Liz
SF Bay Area, California
Unless you know he came straight from wherever he was born to Missouri in 1799, you might try doing some searching in Ireland and Pennsylvania. I have quite a few ancestors who came over here during the 1700's who were Scottish, had moved to Northern Ireland for anywhere from a year or two to a generation or so, then emigrated to the US. Pennsylvania was a common place for them to settle initially before eventually moving to other states.

You may also be able to narrow down where he was born--was he still alive in 1850? If so, the 1850 census should list where he was born. Or if he had any children still alive in 1880, that census lists parents' birth location so you can get it that way too. Neither one is 100% guaranteed to be accurate but it may point you in the right direction (particularly if you find him in 1850 and a child of his in 1880 and they both say he was born in the same place)
Jan 18, 2011 11:14 PM CST
Name: Donna Yates
Happy Jack, AZ - Zone 5a
Angus Gillis died 1820 in Missouri. According to the 1817 & 1819 Missouri state census, he would have been born before 1772. So, any US Census before 1850 is useless too. He falls between the cracks. There are many Angus Gillis' in the earlier census records, but there's no way to prove that one of them could be my Angus. I volunteered at the National Archives - Seattle Branch for a couple of years, so I had a lot of records I could go through. So much fun. Smiling

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