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ImageRedmondPhyllis
Jun 18, 2011 9:27 PM CST
Name: Phyllis Stengl
Sequim, WA
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http://dahlias.net/dahwebpg/Support/NoStake.htm

Interesting! On page two is the way that northwest dahlias might be protected from early over rain exposure?
steves
Jun 19, 2011 7:34 AM CST
Name: steve stevanus
baltimore county maryland
Sounds worth trying. Steve in Stevens County.
Steve S.
ImageRedmondPhyllis
Jun 19, 2011 8:59 AM CST
Name: Phyllis Stengl
Sequim, WA
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We didn't buy enough of that rebar to replace the really aged bamboo stakes this year. Next year, I may replace some of them with this, and use them for my earliest dahlias for a test. I have some old tomato cages that I don't use!
Sonia
Jun 19, 2011 11:47 AM CST
Name: Sonia
Salt Lake City, Utah
As to protection from too much rain.. isn't it really the fact that the ground gets too wet though, not rain hitting the plant itself? I can imagine this helping only a little bit in keeping the ground dry, unless my logic is flawed.
ImageRedmondPhyllis
Jun 19, 2011 1:44 PM CST
Name: Phyllis Stengl
Sequim, WA
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I was thinking of the sleeves that go over the inverted cages on page 2 of the write up . . . the sleeves would have to be somewhat watertight.
ImageRedmondPhyllis
Jun 19, 2011 7:50 PM CST
Name: Phyllis Stengl
Sequim, WA
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I should mention that I have raised beds. I've got about 5 unused tomato cages to test with! I will probably use a carryover plant with multiple tubers in my stash so if it doesn't work, it won't be painful. You have to test some of these things just to see what does and doesn't work!
soilsandup
Jun 20, 2011 12:08 AM CST
Name: Dianne
Sacramento, CA, zone 9a
I have seen this a couple of years ago, but forgot about it. Thanks for bringing it back up, Phyllis. I have tomato cages with rusted bottom legs. I will have to cut off those rusted legs, invert the cage, and make holding pegs out of some other wires. I also have too many plants and not enough stakes.
Imagetgarland
Jun 20, 2011 10:57 AM CST
Name: Tim Garland
Boise, Idaho
I saw this a while back on Paul James' show. Does anyone know if it works if the plants are fairly tall?
ImagePoochella
Jul 7, 2011 7:51 PM CST
Name: Annie
Western WA Zone USDA 7b
Relax. It's only a small setback.
Yes, they work for even 4' dahlias. You need to cut off the legs and bend those wires to act s 'tent stakes' to secure the inverted stand. They work very well but take up much more room to store, for me, than a single stake of some kind.

Occasionally, I've had to tether up a stray branch that escaped the tomato cage with a tie, but it's a good system.
ImageDarcyD
Aug 29, 2014 1:18 PM CST
Name: Darcy D
Green Oaks, Illinois
Has anyone tried this or use this currently? After heartbreak the last few days at losing HUGE parts of plants, I need to do something differently next year. I am wondering if this works even on the big guys?
anniecan
Aug 29, 2014 1:43 PM CST
Name: Annie Luck
Apex, North Carolina
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Darcy, I am using this system when I have some cages. For the most part, it works well. I would be thrilled if I happened upon a huge stash of cages for next season. I'll figure out where to store all of those cages later Shrug!
ImageCCvacation
Aug 30, 2014 8:05 AM CST
Name: CC
PA
I have an overflow bed that has low growing reseeding snaps and moss rose, with lilies and iris that I put my leftover dahlias in. I use regular tomato cages, always intending to cut and flip but never doing it. The ground is rocky, as it used to be the end of a gravel driveway, and the posts don't go in very well. A few cages always topple with the weight at the end of the season, and I suspect would do so even if they were turned over because the stakes don't hold well.

I'd be tempted to use tent stakes instead of the cut off wire, as they will probably do a better job anchoring them.
CC
anniecan
Aug 30, 2014 8:38 AM CST
Name: Annie Luck
Apex, North Carolina
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Most of my cages are flipped, but not cut. Yes, they are a risk for random eye pokes, but it hasn't happened yet. My caged dahlias are scattered among the others that are staked and tied. I run the string through the cages for stability and have only had a few leaning cages. I don't have tall dahlias in general, so I don't know how they'd do for the big ones. My guess is--the bigger the dahlia, the bigger the cage should be.
ImageCCvacation
Aug 30, 2014 11:44 PM CST
Name: CC
PA
hmm. I was just thinking this morning about looping twine around the cages to catch up the errant branches. Didn't think about interlocking the cages with twine for added support, though. I'll try to do that soon.

Thanks for sharing, Annie!
CC

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