Discussion of Colors, Forms or Varieties forum: Yellow
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| that yellow seedling is gorgeous, Ted. i like the pictures of the yellows you sell, Noni. I ordered some dahlias on the assumption that a hard freeze probably took out a lot of my tubers. Per this thread, I was excited to find Lakewood Glow and Trooper Dan from the same grower! Seems that someone on this thread extolled the virtues of Trooper Dan - if that person is reading this and they still want it, I got mine from Julie's Dahlias. I'm always willing to give new growers a try. Not very tall though,, from what she says in her description. https://www.juliesdahlias.com/product-page/trooper-dan |
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| Trooper Dan is really that short but grows enthusiastically. Lakeview Glow is now a classic dahlia as it is an incredible show flower, an incredible basket flower and incredible cut flower. Just remember that it wants to grow too many flowers. It is a 4 footer for me. We like to place a sign on our porch that says: We are in the garden. Really, we are always in the garden. |
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| Thanks Ted; I just realized I had typed in Lakewood Glow instead of Lakeview Glow (Lakeview Glow and HH black beauty are the two of my most exciting new additions) A question: what is meant by too many flowers? Too many lateral stems and then stems are too short? Not disbudding and getting those short stems where the middle flower blooms first and the two side stems never really bloom out if you cut it? Or something else? I still have so much to learn; thanks for helping! |
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| Lakeview Glow just makes too many flowers and I will state it in batches: (1) Flush one is glorious, good stems flowers very full and deep, wins best in show awards. (2) Flush two is still better than just about any dahlia and the grower will pick armfuls of nicely formed, good stemmed flowers and will enter them in a show basket and win best basket in show with ease. Cut flower people will stand back and admire the wonderful looking bouquet. (3) Flush three. the flowers are too numerous and the size reduces and the depth of the bloom reduces and the stems while long enough are not as substantial. Still OK for cut flowers but nobody pays much attention to it in the bouquet as it is just another yellow flower . (4) Flush 4 and later: Plant is suffering from over blooming, flowers miniature size with weak stems, plant stalks weak and still it wants to produce flower after flower. Plants not cared for by dis budding and dis branching look poorly in the garden. Solution: Show people radically control the number of stalks emanating from the plant and limit the plant to only 6 blooms or so with no plans to have any more quality show flowers,. They time other bushes for the next show. Cut flower people absolutely have to dis bud the flowers and make sure that the plant is not growing 100 flowers where 20 is the right number. With good disbudding, regular harvesting and limiting some of the side stalks along with lots of water and fertilizer, it will produce cut flowers for a long time. Garden flower people(yes, some people do not cut their flowers and want the plants to look good in the garden) will have a tough time with this one as you have to pick and disbud and disbranch more than most dahlias to keep the plants looking good. So is this flower for you? Other nice yellow flowers take less maintenance and in most cases, just picking the flower and some dis budding is all they need. So, in my mind it is the same old saying, too much of a good thing may not be a good thing. We like to place a sign on our porch that says: We are in the garden. Really, we are always in the garden. |
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 This is AC SK8R BOI. I bought it 4 or 5 years ago from Accent. THis year no one seems to carry it. I am surprised but then, maybe it doesn't make a winning show dahlia. As a cut it is very productive, makes mountains of tubers and is the only bright yellow I grow. It is BB sized. Salish Dahlias |
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| AC SK8R BOI is a stupid name to me. Change it's name to something cute and it could be nice dahlia. What dahlia is that? the person asks. You reply. AC SK8R BOI and they think you are crazy. We like to place a sign on our porch that says: We are in the garden. Really, we are always in the garden. |
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| Ken does like goofy names for his, LOL. Do you suppose the name is all that is wrong with it? I wondered if I was missing something when It seemed to disappear from mention.. SK*R BOI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TIy3n2b7V9k Salish Dahlias |
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teddahlia wrote:Lakeview Glow just makes too many flowers and I will state it in batches: Is this my problem? I notice by September that most of the stems on the dahlias cannot hold up the blooms. I thought it had something to do with lack of nutrients, or a dahlia that was noted for having poor stems, or just a poor quality of dahlia. Perhaps it just means that the dahlia has come to the end of its season and is too tired to do any more? The garden looks so sad in September and October; there really is nothing worth picking. Of course because of the heat, it has already been blooming since early June. |
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| "The garden looks so sad in September and October; there really is nothing worth picking. " Yes, dahlia plants get bloomed out. Solution: plant four of each variety and in late July or early August cut half of the plants down to about 12 inches tall. They will sprout new stalks and bloom in September and October on the new growth. The two you did not cut back will bloom a bit during the August month before their natural decline. We like to place a sign on our porch that says: We are in the garden. Really, we are always in the garden. |
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| My garden never looks bloomed out by late August. Maybe that is a feature of hotter climates. Mine hits its stride in late September and it was so hard to cut it down in early November... As long as we don't have heavy rain or frost it just wants to keep on blooming. Stems do get a bit weak as the day length shortens though. Salish Dahlias |
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| "Stems do get a bit weak as the day length shortens though'" And some flowers change color to dull colors. It takes lots of sunlight to keep some of the anthocyanins .forming and those are the brighter pigments. But this issue is whether plants "get old age" in hotter climates and I believe they do. We like to place a sign on our porch that says: We are in the garden. Really, we are always in the garden. |
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| In Reference to the name AC SK8R BOI SK*R BOI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TIy3n2b7V9k Salish Dahlias |
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| The significance of that name was lost on this septuagenarian. And even after being enlightened, what does it have to do with a yellow dahlia? I have lots of foolish names for dahlias that are vetoed by the official name reviewer here at Hollyhill. Spiderwoman was not an approved name but somehow she finally approved it. Spiderwoman: In the PNW shows it won best triple entry in the novelty class six times last year. Not bad for a dahlia that failed to pass at the trial gardens. We like to place a sign on our porch that says: We are in the garden. Really, we are always in the garden. |
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| Well, Ted, I don't share Ken's taste in music but I kind of figured it had something to do with his enjoyment of it. You know, there are actually people who "hear" colors..my best friend is one. Color combos that me are "murky" she literally hears as Jazz playing in her mind when she looks at them. Its one of the quirky things I have enjoyed out of over 50 years of friendship with her, since we were in college together. On the other hand she sometimes doesn't " feel" the gentle emotions some color combos bring forth in me and finds them boring. One thing it has taught me is to try all kinds of different combinations and there is usually someone who will respond. As for me, Jazz just doesn't move me but give me some 1970's folk music or celtic dance music and I wake up! " Synesthesia can occur between just about any combination of senses or cognitive pathways. Synesthetes — or people who have synesthesia — may see sounds, taste words or feel a sensation on their skin when they smell certain scents" Salish Dahlias |
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| Ted, thanks for answering and explaining the "too many flowers" syndrome. the "cure" sounds so drastic but then, i never tried it. since i grow just for garden and cut flowers, i have been reluctant to do that or cut out multiple stems - and then all the stems are weak and not very big in diameter; would this be the same kind of issue? are there articles or tutorials, or threads here on this cubits forum on the "how to's" of keeping your flowers blooming but not over-blooming and exhausting them - particularly dis-budding and dis-branching? all this time i was blaming shorter day length and not really fertilizing enough. I already bought lakeview glow so too late for this year; mainly i fell for its form; the way the cactus petals are kind of blunted at the ends before they reach full maturity, really speaks to me. interesting discussion about synesthesia; i hear musical notes when i see certain colors; and then i try to paint or draw that. |
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| That is cool! I am not an auditory person, much more visual, and I consider dahlias the palette of colors from which I "paint". Salish Dahlias |
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| One of the simplest approaches to getting better, larger flowers on an over bloomer variety is to disbud carefully and I am sure you understand how that is done. But in order to get bigger better flowers, you can disbud two down, meaning that you also remove the growth buds lower down on that stem. This gives you a much better, larger flower. My good friend in the dahlia club does not stop at disbudding two down and disbuds three down and gets the most wonderful larger flowers from his plants. Yes, this may sound like lots of extra work but show people think nothing of doing this on a regular basis. Remember a show person cares little how much work it takes to get a perfect show flower and are only concerned that a variety has the potential to produce a perfect flower. I am not keen on many of the show varieties as they take way too much care. We like to place a sign on our porch that says: We are in the garden. Really, we are always in the garden. |
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 When does yellow turn into orange? Yellow or orange? Very few of you would say bronze, but bronze is a dahlia color. I would dump the color bronze and call them gold instead. We like to place a sign on our porch that says: We are in the garden. Really, we are always in the garden. |
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| Apricot? Very Pretty |
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Northlake Heritage back in 2012 managed to churn out some bright yellow blooms. |
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