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Imageteddahlia
Mar 15, 2014 9:46 AM CST
Name: Ted
Oregon
We enjoy breeding new dahlias!
The majority of the exhibitors do not clip those little leaves. Some pom exhibitors do and some should do so; I judged a triple of Pop Willo at a show where those pesky leaves were poking out the backs of all three flowers and had they been removed, the entry was by far the best one there. I like to use the 3 foot rule on a lot of judging and if something looks bad from three feet, it is really bad and these looked terrible. It was as though the grower had given the plants extra fertilizer or something and those normally very small leaves had grown huge and were extremely distracting. Most poms recurve back to the stem without the removal of these leaves. If you have a wonderful entry that just does not quite close to the stem, within a a few minutes after removing them, the ray florets move to the stem. Note: We are talking only about grooming Poms and that has been declared to be an accepted practice.
We like to place a sign on our porch that says: We are in the garden. Really, we are always in the garden.
ImageFLflowerboy
Mar 15, 2014 5:25 PM CST
Name: Jon George
Gainesville, FL
...crazy enough to grow dahlias in
I find the three foot rule applies to a lot of things!
Rolling on the floor laughing
"What is a weed?" asked Peppa Pig. "A weed is a cheeky plant growing in the wrong place!" replied Grandpa Pig.
ImageDahliaGardener
Mar 15, 2014 7:55 PM CST
Name: Cynthia
BG, KY USDA Zone 6b
Sanity = Dirt under your nails...
My mother always liked the 50/50 rule. Only hers went 'if it looks good from 50' at 50 mph, it's good'. Of course, she was kidding, but it was the running joke in the family, as you can well imagine.

C DG
All gardening is landscape painting.
- William Kent

ImageIslander
Mar 16, 2014 7:47 AM CST
Name: Noni Morrison
Warren, Oregon
retired flower farmer
Well, that gives us a lot of lee-way I would say, DG. Too Funny! SOunds like the way I keep house during gardening seasin Rolling on the floor laughing
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ImageFLflowerboy
Jun 5, 2014 8:01 PM CST
Name: Jon George
Gainesville, FL
...crazy enough to grow dahlias in
I was strolling the rows tonight and was amazed to see Lakeview Moonglow in action...thick, sturdy stems supporting perfect BB formal round blooms in the brightest, clearest yellow in the garden....Most impressive!
"What is a weed?" asked Peppa Pig. "A weed is a cheeky plant growing in the wrong place!" replied Grandpa Pig.
ImageBenny101
Jun 5, 2014 8:41 PM CST
Greenville MI - zone 5b
Thats a great looking variety Jon , may have to try it next year . I liked quite a few of Clearviews offerings but thought the site/catalog sorely lacked descriptions , great photos though .
ImageIslander
Jun 5, 2014 10:33 PM CST
Name: Noni Morrison
Warren, Oregon
retired flower farmer
I have had an Interesting experience. You will recall that a couple of years ago I was totally turned off on yellows. Well, with the gift of Penhill Yellow Queen from Todd, and Citrone Du Cap from someone else in this group I begin to enjoy them more. Yellow Queen is such a nice clean yellow which I like a lot.AC Chicken Ranch has that Cuteness Factor.. I noticed at the Farmer's Market I can NOT sell either of these brighter yellows and Only a few of The softer yellow. I wish I could get people to see how neat they are. This year I will also have Happy Day, from Glen Gitts, via Swan Island, A-Peeling,Wyn's Solaris, Skipley Moonglow, Bloomquist Goldilocks, Camano Stroll and AC Golden Nickles as well as my pretty little pom, Lismore Moonlight. I stil don't want the real intense yellows much or those with an orangy tone, but we shall see, we shall see. And EVERYONE seems to like HH Lemon Ice. I didn't have many tubers but I had a lot of people ask for it from seeing my picture of it.

My final yellow...Edna C wasn't going to be invited back this year but Well, I had a couple of tubers so I potted them up..and have some very nice looking plants. I let ONE into the garden, only one and have another I will sell. So we will still see if this is going to be a good Edna year Thumbs up ..
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Imageteddahlia
Jun 6, 2014 8:50 AM CST
Name: Ted
Oregon
We enjoy breeding new dahlias!
I got Lakeview Moonglow given to me and nearly did not plant it. Now with your glowing description, it is in the garden. Sounds really good to me who likes all yellows from the lightest ones to the fully saturated ones. I read an synopsis of a scientific paper that said that the yellow pigment is the last to form. Each of the dahlia pigments are formed by a series of chemical additions to precursor molecules and yellow finally is formed well after the other ones. As I have said before, the solid colored dahlias are harder to breed and solid yellows are almost as difficult as purples. I remember an old dahlia judge saying: "Oh, another light blend dahlia. It won't be around very long." His point was that there are way too many dahlias in light blends and only the very best of them will survive. Whereas, a good dahlia in a solid color has a better chance. And really popular now are the dark blends that have more pigment.
We like to place a sign on our porch that says: We are in the garden. Really, we are always in the garden.
ImageFLflowerboy
Jun 6, 2014 7:40 PM CST
Name: Jon George
Gainesville, FL
...crazy enough to grow dahlias in
I thought a name like Moonglow would yield a pale yellow, but it is nice and bright. Let me know what you think when it blooms.
"What is a weed?" asked Peppa Pig. "A weed is a cheeky plant growing in the wrong place!" replied Grandpa Pig.
ImageBenny101
Jun 6, 2014 8:49 PM CST
Greenville MI - zone 5b
Did you say something before Ted to the effect that most Yellow seedlings die due to a lack of something ?
Imageteddahlia
Jun 6, 2014 11:03 PM CST
Name: Ted
Oregon
We enjoy breeding new dahlias!
Yellow seedlings are healthy as any others. There just are not a lot of them in my seedlings. It may have something to do with how many yellow flowers we use for breeding. Chimacum Julia is one of our favorites and we got a couple of yellows from it back when. Lately it's seedlings have been light blends.
We like to place a sign on our porch that says: We are in the garden. Really, we are always in the garden.
ImageIslander
Jun 6, 2014 11:05 PM CST
Name: Noni Morrison
Warren, Oregon
retired flower farmer
I have seen pictures of it both ways. I ordered it from Verrone's based on their photo which is pale. Don't tell me it is bright yellow!!!?A moonglow should be pale unless it is a harvest or blood moon. I think of the moon as silvery.
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ImageFLflowerboy
Jun 7, 2014 3:24 PM CST
Name: Jon George
Gainesville, FL
...crazy enough to grow dahlias in
Noni, maybe its the Florida sunshine! Whistling
"What is a weed?" asked Peppa Pig. "A weed is a cheeky plant growing in the wrong place!" replied Grandpa Pig.
Imageteddahlia
Jul 30, 2014 3:51 PM CST
Name: Ted
Oregon
We enjoy breeding new dahlias!
Thumb of 2014-07-30/teddahlia/7663ee
I noticed that Clearview Daniel is on the potential re-classification list and someone thinks it should be a miniature ball.
We like to place a sign on our porch that says: We are in the garden. Really, we are always in the garden.
Imagehonnat
Jul 30, 2014 8:54 PM CST
St. Paul, MN
Haven't tried it yet; but may as my Tahoma Lael is looking pretty virused (albeit tall and producing).

What size have you been getting from it?
ImageFLflowerboy
Jul 30, 2014 9:01 PM CST
Name: Jon George
Gainesville, FL
...crazy enough to grow dahlias in
On the subject of strong, clear yellow dahlias.....Clearview Sundance keeps sending up amazing, blemish free blooms....even though they are smaller in the heat....they keep coming!
"What is a weed?" asked Peppa Pig. "A weed is a cheeky plant growing in the wrong place!" replied Grandpa Pig.
ImageIslander
Jul 30, 2014 9:02 PM CST
Name: Noni Morrison
Warren, Oregon
retired flower farmer
Thumb of 2014-07-31/Islander/eba2a9 Here is my Wyn's Solaris just opening. At least it is supposed to be Wyn's Solaris but since I can't find a good web photo I am not sure. As it opens it recurves and is a nice big dahlia. It may be a B size ( It measures BOU 5.75"). It resembles Edna C quite a bit as it recurves.. Just not as tight as E.C. I am loving it what ever it is. I thought from the name is would be glaringly yellow but it isn't. Its just a really nice yellow.
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ImageIslander
Jul 30, 2014 9:03 PM CST
Name: Noni Morrison
Warren, Oregon
retired flower farmer
Do you have a pic of Clearview Sundance?
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ImageFLflowerboy
Jul 31, 2014 6:44 PM CST
Name: Jon George
Gainesville, FL
...crazy enough to grow dahlias in
Thumb of 2014-08-01/FLflowerboy/72a048 not a great bloom...but here is Clearview Sundance (much reduced petal count now in the heat)
"What is a weed?" asked Peppa Pig. "A weed is a cheeky plant growing in the wrong place!" replied Grandpa Pig.
Imageteddahlia
Jul 31, 2014 7:24 PM CST
Name: Ted
Oregon
We enjoy breeding new dahlias!
Thumb of 2014-08-01/teddahlia/c76d18
Since this is a very nice dahlia, it should have a nice picture. I took this last year.
We like to place a sign on our porch that says: We are in the garden. Really, we are always in the garden.

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