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ImageKimC
May 3, 2013 9:34 PM CST
A friend of mine just gifted me with Hi Mom or is it Hy Mom? I 've been too busy to check. It's supposed to be an all white. I also got Carl Chilson last year: didn't bloom (like so many others), but boy did it make tubers!
ImageDahliaGardener
May 4, 2013 3:53 AM CST
Name: Cynthia
BG, KY USDA Zone 6b
Sanity = Dirt under your nails...
Same trouble with white that I have with yellow (sometimes not being able to tell between them), but I think I will have enough of them, including those with light edges of another color, this year. I am going to try to see how Wyn's Ghostie does with Camano Pet and Pink Petticoat, in a vase, if I can get them all blooming at the same time...

C DG
All gardening is landscape painting.
- William Kent

ImageIslander
May 4, 2013 11:59 AM CST
Name: Noni Morrison
Warren, Oregon
retired flower farmer
I hope your Carl Chilson is prettier then mine was. I ended up pulling it half way through the season. I loved Snowflake and have it from last yearl. This year I also will have Hollyhill Diamond, Bride to Be, Blizzard, Wyn's Ghostie, Snoho Storm. Shilo Jazzman, And probably others .oh yes, Lady Liberty, and Hart's Sugar and Juul's Pearl. Should be some good stuff there for cuts!
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ImageKimC
May 4, 2013 6:43 PM CST
I also have Wyn's Ghostie. Didn't bloom last year, made a lot of tubers, is sitting in a flat right now sprouting like mad. Starting on the tilling next week, and will have assistance planting from my younger friends who still have good backs and knees! Hurray!
Imageedewitt
May 5, 2013 12:51 AM CST
Name: Eric DeWitt
Mountainair, NM
Does anyone know how Clearview Misty is compared to Wyn's Ghostie? I see they look quite similar.
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ImageIslander
May 5, 2013 7:25 AM CST
Name: Noni Morrison
Warren, Oregon
retired flower farmer
I would like to know that too. Maybe next year I will try a comparison. So many pretty dahlias left to try!
Anyone here growing Clearview Misty this year?
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Imageteddahlia
May 5, 2013 8:20 AM CST
Name: Ted
Oregon
We enjoy breeding new dahlias!
I had a discussion with a top show exhibitor about what was the best of the larger white ones: Louis Meggos, Wyns Ghostie, Clearview Misty and R. Kris. He had grown them all and he liked R. Kris the best. We have grown all but Ghostie and R. Kris is the best for us. It is very vigorous and easy to grow. Flowers compete well in the shows and although they are probably too large for cut flowers, there are lots of them and one in a bouquet may be the flower that "puts it over the top" for good sales.
We like to place a sign on our porch that says: We are in the garden. Really, we are always in the garden.
ImageDahliaGardener
May 5, 2013 8:50 AM CST
Name: Cynthia
BG, KY USDA Zone 6b
Sanity = Dirt under your nails...
Thanks, Ted. That's really good to know.

C DG
All gardening is landscape painting.
- William Kent

Imagetgarland
May 6, 2013 7:33 AM CST
Name: Tim Garland
Boise, Idaho
I just got R. Kris this year. I am really excited to see how it performs for me.
ImageMaryNZ
May 11, 2013 3:13 AM CST
Name: Mary St George
New Zealand

R. Kris is on my wish list.
My photos are licensed CC BY (Attribution). More Dahlia photos here.
I also spend time in FB Dahlia groups at http://www.facebook.com/groups/363854624030/ and http://www.facebook.com/groups/dahlias/
ImageBenny101
Sep 8, 2014 4:50 PM CST
Greenville MI - zone 5b
Anyone trying Clearview Edie A SC W this season ? Just curious .

Our one tuber of Jack Frost didn't make it . I would like to try a couple BB SC or C in white next year .
ImageIslander
Sep 8, 2014 7:14 PM CST
Name: Noni Morrison
Warren, Oregon
retired flower farmer
I REALLY like Clearview Misty this year.Thumb of 2014-09-09/Islander/f5b03b . Its a nice B size and looks crisp and clean from start to finish. Maybe I will grow several next year and try showing it.
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Imagehonnat
Sep 8, 2014 9:29 PM CST
St. Paul, MN
Benny101 wrote:Anyone trying Clearview Edie A SC W this season ? Just curious .

Our one tuber of Jack Frost didn't make it . I would like to try a couple BB SC or C in white next year .


Clearview Edie was at our show. I just looked through photos and I guess I didn't get a photo of it. I thought it looked really nice. Someone entered it in the "New Introductions" section at our show. I clerked for that category and it was a competition between that and Sandia Warbonet and SW won. Judges were hyper focused on bug and sun damage and I felt not focused enough on form, position etc. Both were excellent; but I really thought Clearview Edie looked superior. I liked it enough to want to order it for next year. It's hard to judge the quality of a variety just by a single show entry as I don't have any idea of other growth habits. It did have some nice trial garden results last year which says something.

If you are looking for really nice form, I love Kenora Challenger. In the PNW it can get to A size. Here it has been more of a B even with heavy disbudding. I just really like straight cactus types when they have precise form. In my experience, it wouldn't be much of a cut flower though.
ImageBenny101
Sep 9, 2014 4:42 PM CST
Greenville MI - zone 5b
Oh that one is nice Noni .
Thanks honnat , I looked at Edie hard before the season started but the Clearview web site shows and tells VERY Very little information ,like you I wanted to know more especially for a new intro at that price , may have to try it this year .
We saw some nice Kenora Challenger blooms at the show , and they were probably about B sized as you described , but very nice . Planning to grow Ivory Palaces next season and seeing that at the show confirmed that desire , I rather liked it .
Thinking I would like to try either HH Chrystal or HH Diamond and cannot decide on one or the other , we may be forced to try both :-)
ImageIslander
Sep 9, 2014 7:32 PM CST
Name: Noni Morrison
Warren, Oregon
retired flower farmer
I have really liked the Clearview dahlias I have bought. They had the most beautiful garden to visit when we were there for the tour! Lots and lots of beautiful dahlias! I was quite impressed!


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Imageteddahlia
Sep 9, 2014 9:29 PM CST
Name: Ted
Oregon
We enjoy breeding new dahlias!
My Clearview Edie was a very small tuber and I got only one cutting. I have not run across the flower blooming in the garden and will have to figure out where it is. Clearview Sundance is a very nice one that is vigorous and easy to grow. I may have sold all but one tuber and it too has not yet bloomed. Picture of Clearview Edie at the Clearview gardens:
Thumb of 2014-09-10/teddahlia/d64aa9
We like to place a sign on our porch that says: We are in the garden. Really, we are always in the garden.
Imagedrewtheflorist
Sep 10, 2014 6:07 AM CST
Name: Drew the Florist
14 miles S E of Pittsburgh
But how do you keep the white ones clean ? They are always the first to become bug-food for me....
ImageDarcyD
Sep 10, 2014 7:57 AM CST
Name: Darcy D
Green Oaks, Illinois
Me too, Drew. At the show I went to there were so many perfect white blooms & I didn't understand how they did it. I asked that question & John Thiermann told me you can use a product called Menace. I don't recall the exact amount, but it was small. Like a teaspoon to a spray bottle or something. He said you can spray each white bloom at night after the bees have gone to bed. Not sure I could go to all that work, but I guess if you were only doing white ones it might not be so bad.
Imageteddahlia
Sep 10, 2014 9:16 AM CST
Name: Ted
Oregon
We enjoy breeding new dahlias!
Menace and Wisdom have the same active ingredient Bifenthrin. One grower here claims that if he sprays at dusk just a light mist over the dahlias, that it kills most insects. He says he sprays at dusk to avoid killing bees. He also said the insects reappear in two to three weeks. As you know, we have not sprayed an insecticide on our dahlias since we started growing them in 1988. Perhaps we have lots of insect predators here. I showed a white Hollyhill Diamond this week end and it had no bug bites.
We like to place a sign on our porch that says: We are in the garden. Really, we are always in the garden.
Imagedrewtheflorist
Sep 10, 2014 9:33 AM CST
Name: Drew the Florist
14 miles S E of Pittsburgh
Wish I could say the same ! Thrips and marmorated stink bugs here...not much problem with Japanese beetles or grass hoppers. We do have those BIG BUGS-- rabbits and groundhogs .

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