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anniecan
Sep 11, 2014 5:57 PM CST
Name: Annie Luck
Apex, North Carolina
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My whites are big food too Thumbs down
ImageIslander
Sep 11, 2014 8:09 PM CST
Name: Noni Morrison
Warren, Oregon
retired flower farmer
Whites are doing quite nicely here. The ducks eat the big bugs and just starting to get some tiny ones. Occassionally a bird nips off the top petals but I think they prefer colored ones. I think we don't have some of those "Middle of the country" bugs that you are dealing with and hope they don't realize there is abundant food here for them! I don't think white is as popular with my customers as bright colors.
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Imagehonnat
Sep 12, 2014 6:57 AM CST
St. Paul, MN
Enough has probably been said about the merits of Snoho Storm; but I'm still mesmorized by my first bloom SLOWLY storming open. Thanks Noni!
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ImageIslander
Sep 12, 2014 7:58 AM CST
Name: Noni Morrison
Warren, Oregon
retired flower farmer
Honnat, THanks for appreciating it Smiling It always fills me with a sense of wonder to see it doing its thing. Amazing how many looks it can take on, like a real storm in nature. No two are ever quite the same at my house.
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ImageBenny101
Dec 3, 2014 5:39 AM CST
Greenville MI - zone 5b
What are the really good giant white SC or C ?
Really liked Kenora Clyde , looking to add another like this .
Imageteddahlia
Dec 3, 2014 9:24 AM CST
Name: Ted
Oregon
We enjoy breeding new dahlias!
When it comes to giant dahlias the choices are very limited. In my mind Kenora Clyde is all there is in huge white flowers. You must go down a size to get some choices.
We like to place a sign on our porch that says: We are in the garden. Really, we are always in the garden.
Imagetodgor
Dec 3, 2014 9:50 AM CST
Name: Tod Gordon
West Caldwell, NJ
What about Ayers White Knight, Clearview Snowcap, or Spike? Kenora Clyde kind of annoys me because where I grow dahlias, its so tall I can never cut the blooms. :)
ImageIslander
Dec 3, 2014 9:53 AM CST
Name: Noni Morrison
Warren, Oregon
retired flower farmer
Tod, I think you need to build a viewing platform in your garden...Sort of a tree house for adults where you can sit and look down at those tall ones you grow! Big Grin
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Imageteddahlia
Dec 3, 2014 9:58 AM CST
Name: Ted
Oregon
We enjoy breeding new dahlias!
Ayers White Knight never grew well for me. It is not very tall and flowers are wide and not deep. Harold Ayers is my friend and he originated it and always thought it deserved more acclaim. It does get really big and has been biggest in several shows. I believe that Harold said it makes some seeds. Harold used to grow it 5 feet tall and mine was 2 feet tall.
Clearview Snowcap was really an "A" sized flower masquerading as a giant. Not real vigorous in my garden and I dumped it.
Spike is an older one that I tried growing only once and failed to get anything. May be someone has good stock.
As I say the pickings for white are very poor.
We like to place a sign on our porch that says: We are in the garden. Really, we are always in the garden.
ImageBenny101
Dec 3, 2014 10:45 AM CST
Greenville MI - zone 5b
I had not seen much in that description so I decided to inquire , Roque Starburst looks nice too but a bit shorter than I would like .
What are the good options in A size for SC and C ?
Imagedrewtheflorist
Dec 3, 2014 11:19 AM CST
Name: Drew the Florist
14 miles S E of Pittsburgh
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I have Spike, grows well, blooms well but I bet you'd need to do some HEAVY disbudding to get it to
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Imagetodgor
Dec 3, 2014 11:59 AM CST
Name: Tod Gordon
West Caldwell, NJ
AWK grew best for me when Corralitos had it. Otherwise it is kind of short even for me. I used the ADS search engine to come up with some more:

AA SC
Kea Magic
Penhill Andre's Memory

A SC
Catherine Ann
Clearview Edie
Kenora Jubilee
Snowbound
Verda

A C
Hy Abalone
Hy Debut
Luther
Windhaven Premiere
ImageCCvacation
Dec 3, 2014 12:13 PM CST
Name: CC
PA
Your Spike has a lot of yellow in it, Drew! Wow, I don't remember that much!

Looking at last season's color and shape palette, I need to try some good medium to small ID and SC whites, as I am culling Wyns Ghostie and Louis Meggos and got tired of Spike, Allie White and Snowbound from earlier seasons. Would love to pick up R. Kris or Clearview Misty... Maybe one of the HH SC BB varieties. Perhaps Blizzard, though the form doesn't excite me at all.

I've been really happy with Brookside Snowball as a white ball power producer with no yellow tinge, and don't feel a need to add another ball to my collection. Two plants produced more then I could cut, and it tubers really well.



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Imageteddahlia
Dec 3, 2014 1:10 PM CST
Name: Ted
Oregon
We enjoy breeding new dahlias!
Brookside SnowbalI is an ancient dahlia that was classified as white ball for most of it's life. I could never understand how it could even sort of be called a ball and finally it was put into the formal decorative class. The stems are a bit wonky for cut flowers but it has always grown with pretty good vigor for an old one. Would not include it in our breeding program as it would be a big step backwards.
We like to place a sign on our porch that says: We are in the garden. Really, we are always in the garden.
ImageCCvacation
Dec 3, 2014 3:41 PM CST
Name: CC
PA
Do you still stand by your comments a couple years ago about Ryecroft Jan M FD W being your favorite?

Does it have an off-white yellowish tinge to it, or is that just the picture?


teddahlia wrote: My overall favorite white dahlia is Ryecroft Jan M FD W. It grows in all weather conditions and produces lots of flowers for all purposes. For me it makes enough tubers but others complain a bit. I like the fact that it grows very vigorously and has lots of nice flowers. Very dependable. I once used about 30 flowers of it in a flower arrangement and cut the blossoms at about 2 inches and made a sheet "cake" design with it with it. The design was not that great as I am not much of a flower designer as my wife but the point is that Ryecroft Jan produced so many useable flowers.
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ImageCCvacation
Dec 3, 2014 3:54 PM CST
Name: CC
PA
Yes, looking at the image of it, it's clearly not a ball. Interesting, as in my memory, it was. The name alludes to it, as well. It's still winning strong in its new classification as a FD, though.

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Imageteddahlia
Dec 3, 2014 6:44 PM CST
Name: Ted
Oregon
We enjoy breeding new dahlias!
I am still growing Ryecroft Jan but not as much because it does not makes seeds or much pollen. Got a very few seedlings from it and one was lavender in color and we kept it for two years but dumped it. Not real good tuber maker so we do not sell it. When you grow about 6 plants of it together it is like white flower hedge and is very impressive.
We like to place a sign on our porch that says: We are in the garden. Really, we are always in the garden.
Imagehonnat
Dec 3, 2014 8:52 PM CST
St. Paul, MN
I'm trying a few new whites for next year. I like the ones I have; but am looking for a bit longer stems and just something different. Right now, I've got midnight moon and Brookside snowball as my small whites. Next year, I'm adding Brian's Dream and Valentine Lil' to my collection to see how they do. I hadn't heard of either; but the descriptions and photos look nice enough to try out. I was also finally able to nab Ryecroft Jan and am looking forward to seeing if it lives up to the hype.
ImageCCvacation
Dec 4, 2014 6:43 AM CST
Name: CC
PA
Funny, I never thought of Midnight Moon as white... I guess I concentrate more on the lavender blush...
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anniecan
Dec 4, 2014 5:25 PM CST
Name: Annie Luck
Apex, North Carolina
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I just know it would be white in my heat, especially since I've grown it before.
I think I should try it again in am sun only, since everyone raves about it so much. We can all use a good white...WITH Lavender I agree

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