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Imageteddahlia
Feb 10, 2012 2:41 PM CST
Name: Ted
Oregon
We enjoy breeding new dahlias!
The ADS has divided pink into what they call pink and dark pink. I wonder why they did that. And insult to injury, some of the nicest pink dahlias are classified as lavender. One my favorite pink dahlias is Chimacum Katie but the ADS calls it lavender.
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We like to place a sign on our porch that says: We are in the garden. Really, we are always in the garden.
ImageMaryNZ
Feb 11, 2012 3:07 AM CST
Name: Mary St George
New Zealand

Hmmm... what's wrong with this picture?
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ImageMaryNZ
Feb 11, 2012 3:18 AM CST
Name: Mary St George
New Zealand

And that's only 70% Chimacum Katie... It's still 30% real lavender coloured!
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Imagehonnat
Feb 11, 2012 10:47 AM CST
St. Paul, MN
Chimacum Katie looks great. Ted, I am glad I am not alone in my confusion over lavendar vs. pink vs. dark pink vs purple with the ADS. Who can look at Chimacum Katie and say that's NOT pink??? It's hard to believe that lives in the same ADS category as Clearview David. The colors are SO different.
I've never grown a 'pink' dahlia. I'll be trying my first one this year with Hollyhill Big Pink. I'm also adding some new lavendars that could pass as pink.
Imagehonnat
May 6, 2012 10:39 AM CST
St. Paul, MN
Well, my Hilltop dahlia order arrived without Hollyhill Big Pink. Grrr!!! I had ordered a plant version of that, and they reported they had an unexpected frost in their shipping shed and lost a lot of stock. They provided a refund for that one; along with a tuber of Pink Jupiter. I'm not too familiar with it; and it some growers describe it as a 'challenge' to grow successfully. Anyone have any experience with it?
Imageteddahlia
May 6, 2012 7:36 PM CST
Name: Ted
Oregon
We enjoy breeding new dahlias!
Pink Jupiter is one of the all time best show dahlias if you live in a cool climate like the Oregon coast. If you get it though the warm summer and it blooms in the cooler weather of September it may be really nice for you. However, the odds are against you. Rose Jupiter, another sport of Daleko Jupiter, seems to do better in the warmer weather, probably because it is a bigger flower.
We like to place a sign on our porch that says: We are in the garden. Really, we are always in the garden.
LindaA17
May 7, 2012 5:12 PM CST
Name: Linda Abram
Layton, UT
I wish there was some way to know which ones do better in the warmer climates so I wouldn't waste my time trying to grow something that will probably never do well here. So are you saying that bigger flowers do better in warmer weather?
Imageteddahlia
May 8, 2012 9:05 AM CST
Name: Ted
Oregon
We enjoy breeding new dahlias!
It's mostly a matter of perception. A large flower blooms later in the season. By then the weather may be cooler. It should be noted that there are several traits that contribute to whether a variety does well in the heat:
in no particular order

Color: many dark pinks and reds fade in the hot sun. They are outstanding when blooming on cloudy days
Green Centers: Some varieties form green centers and double centers in hot weather
Substance: In hot weather the flower matures too quickly and looses depth and form. Same flower in cooler weather has excellent depth and substance.
Lack of growth in hot weather: many/most/ all? varieties do not grow when the night temperatures are too warm. I believe that dahlias can survive high heat if it cools off at night to 65 degrees or so. In areas where it stays 80 degrees at night most dahlias put on little growth and blooms are not very good. .
Height: I believe taller dahlias suffer more in high heat as they must pump water to a larger bush.
There are probably more factors than these.
We like to place a sign on our porch that says: We are in the garden. Really, we are always in the garden.
LindaA17
May 8, 2012 5:20 PM CST
Name: Linda Abram
Layton, UT
Thanks Ted, That info was very interesting to me. I just googled the average temperature for here and it looks like July is the hottest month with an average high of 91 and a low of 63. August is just a little cooler. Last year I grew several big dahlias and they all seemed to do really well until later in the fall when I did get some open centers. Last summer was a little cooler than average with only about 3 days that were 100 degrees. Hopefully we have another summer like that! I do water my dahlias a lot once the weather gets hot and they seemed to do just fine. Maybe it's because the night time temps are usually not too hot. I think I will try to plant my dark reds where they will get a little shade in the afternoon.
Imagehonnat
May 23, 2012 8:14 PM CST
St. Paul, MN
Took some photos today and couldn't help thinking of this thread. The peonies and poppies are starting to bloom in Minnesota. Great for us big flower lovers waiting for late summer. I applied my learning about dahlias; and pinched the side buds on some of my peonies the last couple of years. Just on a few of the stems. It's amazing how much bigger those blooms are.

Any dahlias this color?
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Imageedewitt
May 23, 2012 8:17 PM CST
Name: Eric DeWitt
Mountainair, NM
Hollyhill Cotton Candy pretty much turned out a mix of those colors for me last year.
ImageIslander
May 26, 2012 9:16 AM CST
Name: Noni Morrison
Warren, Oregon
retired flower farmer
Delicious!
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Imageedewitt
May 26, 2012 10:04 AM CST
Name: Eric DeWitt
Mountainair, NM
Hmm, the picture didn't post.

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ImageMaryNZ
May 26, 2012 6:07 PM CST
Name: Mary St George
New Zealand

Bracken Ballerina can be that colour - mine got a lot of shade: http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/6814305796/in/phot...
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I also spend time in FB Dahlia groups at http://www.facebook.com/groups/363854624030/ and http://www.facebook.com/groups/dahlias/
Imageteddahlia
Jun 9, 2012 8:44 AM CST
Name: Ted
Oregon
We enjoy breeding new dahlias!
Thumb of 2012-06-09/teddahlia/342cc2 Alfred Grille is an old time flower that can still look very good and it is a nice shade of pink.
We like to place a sign on our porch that says: We are in the garden. Really, we are always in the garden.
ImageMaryNZ
Aug 21, 2012 12:21 AM CST
Name: Mary St George
New Zealand

Alfred Grille blooms apricot here.

There is a nice soft pink Dahlia being auctioned, but the cultivar name isn't one I can find elsewhere online, and the trader has had quite a bit of negative feedback, so I am not going to bid. What very soft pink Dahlias have done well for people?
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I also spend time in FB Dahlia groups at http://www.facebook.com/groups/363854624030/ and http://www.facebook.com/groups/dahlias/
ImageMaryNZ
Aug 27, 2012 11:58 PM CST
Name: Mary St George
New Zealand

There is a local supplier listing "Chilton's Pride", and it is pink. I wonder if it is really "Chilson's Pride", but it looks not quite pale enough, and lacks the slight fimbriations in the petal tips. If you have grown Chilson's Pride, I'd value your opinion on whether this pic could be it: http://www.dahliahaven.co.nz/cactus_03.html (top right).
My photos are licensed CC BY (Attribution). More Dahlia photos here.
I also spend time in FB Dahlia groups at http://www.facebook.com/groups/363854624030/ and http://www.facebook.com/groups/dahlias/
ImageIslander
Aug 28, 2012 12:41 PM CST
Name: Noni Morrison
Warren, Oregon
retired flower farmer
Mary, Chilson's Pride varies from palest almost white pink to deep candy pink for me. Ted explained to us that the fimbriations only appear in hot weather. Most of my weather is not enough to bring them on but It is still a wonderful dahlia after all the years its been around. I have had the same stock since about 2000 when we moved to this house, or a few years before since I think I brought it with me. I thought I had lost it this year but it turned up labeled as something else in 6 different places, fortunately 4 of them were in my Pink Flower bed, where I thought i was putting a Hart's Sugar/Thumb of 2012-08-28/Islander/e24cca
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Here are 3 different views of Chilson's Pride in my garden. When it hit 92 degrees there were a few fimbriations on just a few petals. FOr a more fimbriated pink I Like Gay Princess.
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ImageMaryNZ
Aug 28, 2012 1:18 PM CST
Name: Mary St George
New Zealand

That is probably it at Dahlia Haven, then. It's often hard to know whether someone has made a typo, or whether there are similar names! I also wonder whether Coralie and Coralee are the same Dahlia, for instance.
My photos are licensed CC BY (Attribution). More Dahlia photos here.
I also spend time in FB Dahlia groups at http://www.facebook.com/groups/363854624030/ and http://www.facebook.com/groups/dahlias/
ImageMaryNZ
Aug 30, 2012 10:14 PM CST
Name: Mary St George
New Zealand

Has anyone grown Nenekazi? See http://www.anglo-dutch-dahlias.co.uk/photo_nenekazi.htm. I'm curious as to whether it is a good cutlfower. That influences whether I grow one, or take cuttings and grow as many as I can.
My photos are licensed CC BY (Attribution). More Dahlia photos here.
I also spend time in FB Dahlia groups at http://www.facebook.com/groups/363854624030/ and http://www.facebook.com/groups/dahlias/

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