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ImagePNWGal
Jan 5, 2015 10:02 PM CST
Name: Linda
Portland OR, zone 8b
Wow! That's even better than the pictures I saw. Avignon is going to be on my list for 2016 for sure.
Imagehonnat
Jan 5, 2015 10:55 PM CST
St. Paul, MN
I picked up the new Danny Boy, and new stock of HH Tigress from the Boley's. I also just ordered HH Bewitched from Old House (just opened up in January BTW). It's one of the few non-show dahlias I ordered this winter. I'm going to be doing some limited cut flower sales again this year again and felt this was a must have for that.
ImageBenny101
Jan 6, 2015 5:11 AM CST
Greenville MI - zone 5b
We're defiantly growing Tigress again this year and we ordered Pink Tigress from Mr Sparenberg .
Another of my favorite variegated dahlia was Sandia Tiger , great color and very attractive in the garden .
mandolls
Jan 6, 2015 7:42 AM CST
Name: Geof
WI
I got 2 Avignon from DG last year in trade. They were late starters, but bloomed well once they got going. However I didn't get a viable tuber from either plant. The tubers were few and skinny, and they turned to sponge very soon after digging them.



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ImageClearCreekDahlias
Jan 6, 2015 8:55 AM CST
Western New York State
Dahlias! Dahlias! Dahlias!
Avignon is usually available as pot tubers from places like Van Bourgondien's or Breck's. Just Google it.

JL Mayra. Awful late season photos taken with the cell phone. It is actually a nice bright yellow with no center issues until very late in the season .

JL Mayra
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Irish Speckles
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Gloriosa
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Hollyhill Tigress (awful cell phone photo--sorry, Ted)
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I will hop on the computer now and upload some better photos!

This is a fun thing to do on a day when it's 7 degrees outside!

Crazy Ivan
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Hollyhill Bewitched
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Hollyhill Six In One
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Hollyhill Tigress
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Sandia Tiger
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Imageteddahlia
Jan 6, 2015 10:30 AM CST
Name: Ted
Oregon
We enjoy breeding new dahlias!
The sport of Akita called Avignon is very nice looking. I believe that most of you have noticed that Akita(plus sports) and to some degree Akita No Hikari are the only dahlias that have "spoon" shaped petals. Akita was bred in Japan and of course they have been growing chrysanthemums there for centuries. That petal shape is common on chrysanthemums. Margaret loved Akita No Hikari and found out that even if it did not make seeds for us, that it did make some pollen. She used that pollen and one of our older varieties is the result. I will keep you guessing since it is Winter and we have lots of time.
“Flowers are like friends; They bring color to your world.” – Unknown
Imageedewitt
Jan 6, 2015 12:45 PM CST
Name: Eric DeWitt
Boise, Idaho
I'd venture a guess of Hollyhill Spiderwoman was the end result.
Imageteddahlia
Jan 6, 2015 1:19 PM CST
Name: Ted
Oregon
We enjoy breeding new dahlias!
Spiderwoman was a hand cross of Hollyhill Dark Victory and Alfred Grille both of which we no longer grow.
“Flowers are like friends; They bring color to your world.” – Unknown
ImageBenny101
Jan 6, 2015 3:46 PM CST
Greenville MI - zone 5b
My guess is Starburst
ImageClearCreekDahlias
Jan 6, 2015 4:27 PM CST
Western New York State
Dahlias! Dahlias! Dahlias!
This will blow your socks off.... a sport of HH Six in One. We LIKE it! Thumbs up

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Let's see if it comes back next year.


ImagePNWGal
Jan 6, 2015 5:10 PM CST
Name: Linda
Portland OR, zone 8b
teddahlia wrote:The sport of Akita called Avignon is very nice looking. I believe that most of you have noticed that Akita(plus sports) and to some degree Akita No Hikari are the only dahlias that have "spoon" shaped petals. Akita was bred in Japan and of course they have been growing chrysanthemums there for centuries. That petal shape is common on chrysanthemums. Margaret loved Akita No Hikari and found out that even if it did not make seeds for us, that it did make some pollen. She used that pollen and one of our older varieties is the result. I will keep you guessing since it is Winter and we have lots of time.


So the resemblance is more than coincidence. I have assumed that Vancouver was a sport of Akita, and I can see Avignon as a sport of that, so I guess it makes sense in a roundabout sort of way. So no one has managed to get the "spoon" shaped petals into a seedling?

Question: what is the difference between Akita and Akita no Hikari?

And if Avignon is the clue, I would guess Hollyhill Candy Stripe as your variety.
Imageedewitt
Jan 6, 2015 6:03 PM CST
Name: Eric DeWitt
Boise, Idaho
Here's how mine turned out.

"Akita No Hikari"
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"Akita"
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ImageFLflowerboy
Jan 6, 2015 6:08 PM CST
Name: Jon George
Gainesville, FL
...crazy enough to grow dahlias in
Not variegated, but nice form!
"What is a weed?" asked Peppa Pig. "A weed is a cheeky plant growing in the wrong place!" replied Grandpa Pig.
Imageteddahlia
Jan 6, 2015 6:19 PM CST
Name: Ted
Oregon
We enjoy breeding new dahlias!
Akita has spoon type petals all over whereas Akita No Hikari just has them towards the center. It was said by a person in the know that the names were mixed up the first year and it was never straightened out. No not Six in One. The seedling has won several best of types in shows and everybody would be growing it if it did not fade a bit(well more than a bit).
“Flowers are like friends; They bring color to your world.” – Unknown
Imagetodgor
Jan 6, 2015 9:50 PM CST
Name: Tod Gordon
West Caldwell, NJ
I have been buying the "Akita variety" set from Dutch Gardens since 2008, mainly to get another variegated one like I had then. I never had another one like it, though it still appears in the ads. It looks like what is called Cambridge now.

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Imagetodgor
Jan 6, 2015 10:09 PM CST
Name: Tod Gordon
West Caldwell, NJ
Some others, Candy Jayne:

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Art Act, an uncommon combo:

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ImageCCvacation
Jan 7, 2015 7:02 AM CST
Name: CC
PA
Art Act looks pretty small in your image... Still a cutie, though. Does it grow to full B size for you, Todgor?
CC
Imagetodgor
Jan 7, 2015 7:12 AM CST
Name: Tod Gordon
West Caldwell, NJ
It was a smallish plant and did not do well, its probably why. I never got it to grow again.
Imageteddahlia
Jan 7, 2015 9:08 AM CST
Name: Ted
Oregon
We enjoy breeding new dahlias!
Art Act is the darkest combination of colors of any variegated I have seen. It has an almost purple base(light purple, dark lavender, dark pink, words are insufficient) and the darkest purple(maroon purple, black red) spots and streaks. I tried once and it was a poor grower.
Hollyhill Tempest has much of the same coloration. Tempest is just the opposite of Art Act as it is a monster plant that will not stop growing, reaching 7 feet easily. The tuber clumps are equally monstrous and a royal pain in the A.. to divide as they are so heavy and crammed with over sized tubers. It would be a great flower if it were "floriferous". Huge plant and just one or two flowers at a time. But the flowers do look great in a flower design. We no longer sell Tempest(maybe next year) but Old House Dahlias has it. Mark Harvey loves it and is willing to put up with the huge bush and tubers to get those exotic looking flowers that he sells for a premium to the florists. By the way, we should have named it Medussa.
“Flowers are like friends; They bring color to your world.” – Unknown
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ImageIslander
Jan 7, 2015 10:56 AM CST
Name: Noni Morrison
Vashon Island, Washington
growing and selling organic cutflow
Hmmm, Maybe that would be a good one to get and leave in the ground, mulched, over the winter here where MOST YEARS they survive. But I made my Old House order yesterday. Sad I'll wait until next year I guess....

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