Discussion of Colors, Forms or Varieties forum: Variegated

 
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Imageteddahlia
Jan 8, 2015 11:18 AM CST
Name: Ted
Oregon
We enjoy breeding new dahlias!
Variegated cut flower question: What color scheme sells the best? I believe the choices are:
Background
white
yellow
orange
pink
lavender
purple(light purple)

Spots and streaks
red
dark red
dark pink.
lavender
purple
black red


My personal favorites are Art Act, Hollyhill Tempest colors and the darker version of Hollyhill Bewitched and Hollyhill Candystripe(that we have not grown for 10 years). Some of these seem to have more than two colors as the spots spread color onto the background color.
“Flowers are like friends; They bring color to your world.” – Unknown
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ImageIslander
Jan 8, 2015 11:45 AM CST
Name: Noni Morrison
Vashon Island, Washington
growing and selling organic cutflow
Hollyhill Candystripe sends my customers into swoons of delight. ANd I could sell all the plants of it I take to market with a good photo :thumbsup:
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ImageIslander
Jan 8, 2015 11:48 AM CST
Name: Noni Morrison
Vashon Island, Washington
growing and selling organic cutflow
Also, everyone who sees HH Bewitched wants it or a tuber. It grew tall and strong, but late to flower and but not many flowers last year for me..I will grow it again and several of it , but wish It made more flowers and more tubers, and was earlier.
ImageIslander
Jan 8, 2015 12:43 PM CST
Name: Noni Morrison
Vashon Island, Washington
growing and selling organic cutflow
Another variegated one that is very healthy and produces like crazy is AC Gypsy. The red and gold pattern was not as popular with my customers as the pinks and reds last year, but I liked it a lot. Also VERY floriferous. Some flowers at the end of the season reverted to solid red but they were very pretty too.
Same thing with My other popular variagated, Neighbor Dave. I call this one "David, My Love" after my first born son.
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ImageCCvacation
Jan 8, 2015 1:26 PM CST
Name: CC
PA
I grew HH Candystripe for a season, and enjoyed it, but don't plan on growing it again. I am tired of it... And until just now, I didn't understand why.

I believe the tight variegation and the laciniated petals are just too busy for me. Shea's Rainbow and Colewood Cherie went bye-bye, too, for the same reason.

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I also tired of Carmen Fiesta and Mingus Toni's blended variegations, perhaps the yellow undertones is what ran any charm quickly down for me.
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Conversely, I really enjoyed Be A Sport (albeit the color scheme is not to my liking). The blunt petals deliver the bicolor punch in a rather delicious way that made me pause to enjoy the variegation inside. Granted, the form and color has a bit to be desired, and I would LOVE to see more of these consistent bi-variegates more readily available.

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I still love the Blackberry Ripple, but am hoping to find a similar one with better stems and a shorter season of open centers. The crisp white background and purplish red flecks are endlessly interesting to me, and always makes me pause in the row to admire them.

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For that matter, Hulin's Carnival is a constant wonder to me, as well... Perhaps the white background? Shrug! I love the look of Art Act and HH Bewitched, though. And HH Tigress was lots of fun, too.
CC
Imageteddahlia
Jan 8, 2015 1:53 PM CST
Name: Ted
Oregon
We enjoy breeding new dahlias!
One of these days, Dan's Dahlias will sell Hollyhill Ripple a flower that he is using for cut flowers instead of Blackberry Ripple. About the same colors and Hollyhill Ripple has better stems and does not decline in quality after the first flush of flowers like Blackberry Ripple. I have been growing it for 7 years now but never offered it for sale. Gave some stock to Dan a few years ago and he likes it. I grew just a couple of plants of it last year. Not enough room for everything. And Hollyhill Bewitched is one of Margaret's favorites and I am supposed to grow about 20 plants of it instead of the (1) we had this last year. Too many people ordered it and I could not say no and ended up with just one tuber. I thought I could get some from Old House Dahlias and he lost most of his to the big freeze and so only one got planted.
“Flowers are like friends; They bring color to your world.” – Unknown
ImageCCvacation
Jan 8, 2015 3:09 PM CST
Name: CC
PA
Is Hollyhill Ripple a semi cactus, as well? If so, it is going on my wishlist... I would love to upgrade my favorites.

Any show potential in it?

Regarding HH Bewitched...
"I could not say no and ended up with just one tuber"
I bet that ended up with you in the marital time-out corner! Hilarious!
CC
ImageIslander
Jan 8, 2015 3:52 PM CST
Name: Noni Morrison
Vashon Island, Washington
growing and selling organic cutflow
CC, I am glad you are leaving all those variegateds to the rest of us! Love HH Toni, HH Candystripe, Carmen Fiesta, Shea's Rainbow and Colewood Scheri.I am so glad we all like different ones...keeps more of them circulating!

Another 2 I like a lot (From Lobaughs), but only grow some years are Han's Funk and Newaukum Klumper. I usually grow just enough to keep some tubers of them. THis year Han's Funk and Newaukum Klumper got totally submerged under some of those huge AC dahlias, and they ended up making many tubers with little top growth. I'll give them better chances this year. They are DURABLE, I must say!


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Ted, do you have a photos of HH Ripple?

Imageteddahlia
Jan 8, 2015 4:40 PM CST
Name: Ted
Oregon
We enjoy breeding new dahlias!
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I thought that this basket had Hollyhill Ripple but it turns out it is another seedling that we kept for a few years and it never made many tubers and we lost it.
“Flowers are like friends; They bring color to your world.” – Unknown
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ImageFlowernut
Jan 8, 2015 5:47 PM CST
Name: Jane
Southern California Zone 9/10
I grew 18th Surgical Hospital last year and really liked the color combo. I didn't place an order for it this year, I had too many others to buy. I also liked SB's Fiesta. My picture shows it a little deeper color than what it was in "real" life. This year I have ordered Ms Zelda, Vernon Rose (maybe like 18th Surgical?) and AC White Rabbit. Here are pictures of 18 Surgical and SB's Fiesta.

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Jane
"In joy or sadness, flowers are our constant friends"-Kazuko Okakura
ImageIslander
Jan 8, 2015 6:14 PM CST
Name: Noni Morrison
Vashon Island, Washington
growing and selling organic cutflow
That one should be among your "Lost Angels". I wanted to reach out into your picture and touch it .
ImageFLflowerboy
Jan 8, 2015 8:38 PM CST
Name: Jon George
Gainesville, FL
...crazy enough to grow dahlias in
I like SB's Fiesta...I think this one did alright for me last season. How tall did it get for you Flowernut?
"What is a weed?" asked Peppa Pig. "A weed is a cheeky plant growing in the wrong place!" replied Grandpa Pig.
ImageCCvacation
Jan 8, 2015 8:56 PM CST
Name: CC
PA
I had bought HH Toni last year, but it was open-centered all season and had to be tossed. The vendor offered to send me another one, but then admitted that all his stock was open-centered, too. No, thanks- I'll pass on that guaranteed space-waster. I hope to be able to try HH Toni again some day.
CC
Imagehonnat
Jan 8, 2015 9:55 PM CST
St. Paul, MN
teddahlia wrote: I thought I could get some from Old House Dahlias and he lost most of his to the big freeze and so only one got planted.

Yikes, I ordered a couple from him; and he still has it on his site. Hopefully he'll be able to fill that order with his one plant.

Imagetodgor
Jan 8, 2015 10:08 PM CST
Name: Tod Gordon
West Caldwell, NJ
I just have to include Harvey Koop:

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Alpen Pauline:

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Does Alpen Bob count? Its not spotted but streaked:

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And appropriately, Rees' Variegated:

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ImageCCvacation
Jan 8, 2015 10:21 PM CST
Name: CC
PA
Alpen Bob is a really neat one... Can't see the detail until it's blown up.
CC
ImageFlowernut
Jan 8, 2015 10:26 PM CST
Name: Jane
Southern California Zone 9/10
Jon, SB's Fiesta was about 6 ft for me. It pumped out a lot of flowers.

Todgor, Alpen Bob is unique. Is Art Act still available for purchase anywhere? I'm drawn to the colors. It looks like it would "play" well with other colors and make a bouquet just pop.

Noni, I bought both Newaukum Klumper and Hans Funk a few years ago, but they didn't grow for me. I know it was something I did or didn't do. Are they both good cutters?
Jane
"In joy or sadness, flowers are our constant friends"-Kazuko Okakura
ImagePNWGal
Jan 8, 2015 10:39 PM CST
Name: Linda
Portland OR, zone 8b
Yup, Alpen Bob counts - it's in the ADS Composite listing as A ID Variegated Lavender/Purple. (Sure looks like Pink/Pink to me...)
ImageDahliaGardener
Jan 9, 2015 2:23 AM CST
Name: Cynthia
BG, KY USDA Zone 6b
Sanity = Dirt under your nails...
I grew all the Akita 'types' last year, except for Kiev (white, have not seen it in th US), and loved them all. Unfortunately, mostly they did not keep well for me. I *might* have Manhattan Island, and maybe Akita, but Avignon, Cambridge, and Vancouver all failed. The only one that did well was Bilbao(bilboa).

I really liked Avignon, though, and Cambridge for variegates. I liked AC Paint, too. Hulin hasn't done well for me in the last two years, but I've always loved it, and will continue to try to grow it.

C DG
All gardening is landscape painting.
- William Kent

Imageteddahlia
Jan 9, 2015 9:23 AM CST
Name: Ted
Oregon
We enjoy breeding new dahlias!
HH Bewitched at Old House Dahlias: he lost most plants in 2013 to the big freeze and those would have been sold for planting in 2014 when I needed it. He kept all for himself and has enough to sell this year. I will be getting some from him too. I need to get from several sources as the colors vary and Margaret wants a particular color for Bewitched. I like the darker one but she likes a lighter version. Old House also sells the black red solid version of Bewitched that he has re-named. Margaret used those black red sport flowers for her arrangements before HH Black Beauty was bred. It was featured in her best in show design at the ADS National show in Seattle many years ago.
“Flowers are like friends; They bring color to your world.” – Unknown

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