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Imageteddahlia
Feb 13, 2012 8:55 PM CST
Name: Ted
Oregon
We enjoy breeding new dahlias!
I find it strange that red is one of the last colors discussed. I have always admired any dahlia that is a pure, fully saturated red. I would call such reds, crimson, or fire engine, or stop light red. I dislike reds that fade although some fading may be inevitable with a fully saturated color. The ADS has divided red into red and dark red. The break between the two colors is very subtle and there are many dahlias that could fall on either side depending on the day and the person doing the color matching.
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Barbarry Red Dwarf
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Imagehonnat
Feb 13, 2012 9:33 PM CST
St. Paul, MN
My favorite red of 2011 was Hillcrest Jake. Great color. Not quite 'fire engine' but very saturated. Good enough to inspire me to add 6 new reds for next year.
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Another one with a ton of potential was AC Rooster (also a fav of others on this board...). Mine bloomed late, small and not very full. But the color was fantastic!
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ImageMaryNZ
Feb 14, 2012 12:39 AM CST
Name: Mary St George
New Zealand

Crimson is a red that contains a hint of blue. Around here, fire engine red does not. Just one more example of the words for colours having different meanings in different times and places.

I like any dark red. If my section was bigger, I would also like most reds. However, with the existing plantings, it is hard to know where to put a bright red. Even if I dig up all the lawn!

Red Dahlias bred in New Zealand - There will be many more than I was able to photograph at the recent show, but that is what I have for starters.

Kea Lyn, excuse the fuzzy photo:
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And yes... that's Taratahi Ruby in front.

While we're discussing Taratahi Ruby, let's have a better look:
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Tui Connie:
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Ronas1, a very dark red that my camera "watered down" a bit:
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Imageedewitt
Feb 14, 2012 2:29 AM CST
Name: Eric DeWitt
Mountainair, NM
Hopefully "Aitara Rufus" isn't one of those blooms that fades too much, I'm getting that and "Taratahi Ruby" this year. I haven't really sought out reds until this year but I'm finding my taste in blooms/bloom colors changing constantly (maybe it's me being stir-crazy during the winter). I do however love Swan Island's Cherry Drop I got that one mainly because of the contrast between everything on the plant the stems were dark, the foliage a very lovely green, topped off with a brilliant red bloom.

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ImageMaryNZ
Feb 14, 2012 3:04 AM CST
Name: Mary St George
New Zealand

That's gorgeous! I like dark stems in a vase, too.
My photos are licensed CC BY (Attribution). More Dahlia photos here.
I also spend time in FB Dahlia groups at http://www.facebook.com/groups/363854624030/ and http://www.facebook.com/groups/dahlias/
Imagehonnat
Feb 14, 2012 7:02 AM CST
St. Paul, MN
Now why are you all trying to convince me to get more reds??...
Taratahi Ruby is great - and a great red. I've grown Taratahi Glo a couple years and some of my blooms are very close to what you are showing. I didn't realize Ruby had some yellow in the center.
Here is one of my Taratahi Glo
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Imagehonnat
Feb 14, 2012 8:53 AM CST
St. Paul, MN
Ok - I've got to share one more. I kicked myself for not ever photographing my Spartacus blooms when they were open last year. All the photos I took, I have no idea why I over looked that one. This is the one that I got before it was open. It's been my desktop wallpaper for a couple months now...
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ImageRedmondPhyllis
Feb 14, 2012 1:17 PM CST
Name: Phyllis Stengl
Sequim, WA
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Spring is coming, and I am so anxious to get mine planted!
Imageteddahlia
Feb 23, 2012 12:08 PM CST
Name: Ted
Oregon
We enjoy breeding new dahlias!
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Red Balloon is one of the best red dahlias out there in my opinion. Easy to grow; makes lots of small but easy to keep tubers. Flowers win in shows and it is an excellent cut flower. Originated by Cor Geerlings
We like to place a sign on our porch that says: We are in the garden. Really, we are always in the garden.
ImageMaryNZ
Mar 4, 2012 5:15 AM CST
Name: Mary St George
New Zealand

I have found a new kind of wonderful as regards red:
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'Kea Sally', a New Zealand cultivar bred by K. Sherlock, and introduced in 2010. Here is is a large decorative, so it would be an A size in the US, I believe.
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I also spend time in FB Dahlia groups at http://www.facebook.com/groups/363854624030/ and http://www.facebook.com/groups/dahlias/
Imageteddahlia
Mar 4, 2012 10:40 AM CST
Name: Ted
Oregon
We enjoy breeding new dahlias!
I am sure that it would do well here in the USA too. Very nice bloom. Good red ones are hard to find.
We like to place a sign on our porch that says: We are in the garden. Really, we are always in the garden.
ImageMaryNZ
Mar 4, 2012 12:18 PM CST
Name: Mary St George
New Zealand

Someone saw me writing it my wish list and said "you won't be able to buy that, it's too new", so the pecking order applies with that one! It really is lovely. It had some rain damage on the back petals (terrible weather), so it couldn't be top bloom, but in terms of sheer visual impact, it was the star of the show.
My photos are licensed CC BY (Attribution). More Dahlia photos here.
I also spend time in FB Dahlia groups at http://www.facebook.com/groups/363854624030/ and http://www.facebook.com/groups/dahlias/
Imagehonnat
Mar 4, 2012 3:45 PM CST
St. Paul, MN
Kea Sally looks nice. Similar to the new Hart's Blood Red. Still trying to decide if I want to get this one:
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Imageedewitt
Mar 4, 2012 3:50 PM CST
Name: Eric DeWitt
Mountainair, NM
If I end up putting an order in through Wynne's I'm gonna get Wyn's Red Stiletto. I did manage to order Taratahi Ruby, maybe when it's a bit less expensive I'll get Mak's Royal Ruby.
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Imageteddahlia
Mar 4, 2012 4:53 PM CST
Name: Ted
Oregon
We enjoy breeding new dahlias!
I got Mak's Royal Ruby and found out it is a seedling of Taratahi Ruby.
We like to place a sign on our porch that says: We are in the garden. Really, we are always in the garden.
Imageedewitt
Mar 4, 2012 6:39 PM CST
Name: Eric DeWitt
Mountainair, NM
Just judging from pictures Mak's Royal Ruby looks a bit more petal dense, I wonder how well it fairs in producing any seeds.

Is Hollyhill Shogun a pretty similar red to Red Balloon?
ImageMaryNZ
Mar 4, 2012 10:32 PM CST
Name: Mary St George
New Zealand

A waterlily type can have too many petals here. not sure about there. All lovely varieties though! I'm sure you'll enjoy Taratahi Ruby. Amazing flowers.
My photos are licensed CC BY (Attribution). More Dahlia photos here.
I also spend time in FB Dahlia groups at http://www.facebook.com/groups/363854624030/ and http://www.facebook.com/groups/dahlias/
Imageteddahlia
Mar 4, 2012 10:33 PM CST
Name: Ted
Oregon
We enjoy breeding new dahlias!
Thumb of 2012-03-05/teddahlia/182c98 Red Ballon
Thumb of 2012-03-05/teddahlia/b8e192 Shogun

I sampled the color of Shogun from a picture shot by Claudia Biggs. Shogun has less
green and blue and is a brighter red. Every flower is a bit different and sampling gets different but similar values.
Probably fairly accurate but both are bright red when you see them.
We like to place a sign on our porch that says: We are in the garden. Really, we are always in the garden.
ImageRedmondPhyllis
Mar 4, 2012 10:36 PM CST
Name: Phyllis Stengl
Sequim, WA
Deer are beautiful if they don't e
The color Shogun would be a wonderful shade in a dahlia!!
Imageteddahlia
Mar 4, 2012 10:37 PM CST
Name: Ted
Oregon
We enjoy breeding new dahlias!
MaryNZ wrote:A waterlily type can have too many petals here. not sure about there. All lovely varieties though! I'm sure you'll enjoy Taratahi Ruby. Amazing flowers.


There is a lot of emphasis here on how many rows of ray florets that a waterlily displays. I wish they would be more concerned about the cupping of the petals. If they cup well, a bloom can have more rows of petals and still look good.
We like to place a sign on our porch that says: We are in the garden. Really, we are always in the garden.

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