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Imagehonnat
Sep 3, 2013 9:59 PM CST
St. Paul, MN
Another one to try if you are like me - looking for just the right little red. This is Narrow's AJ. Very nice form and color on this little dahlia that doesn't seem to be fading. I am not sure it is an ideal cut flower as it is growing pretty short for me and I need to disbud a ways down to get good stems. I've had a few stems stretch a bit more, and I think sometimes plants get "dwarfed" when the weather is too hot. I like it enough to try again.
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ImageIslander
Sep 4, 2013 8:23 AM CST
Name: Noni Morrison
Warren, Oregon
retired flower farmer
That does look like a nice one and I was not familiar with it! It's worth a try. Do you know where you found this one? Or might you have a few tubers to trade?
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Imagehonnat
Sep 4, 2013 12:14 PM CST
St. Paul, MN
I believe I purchased this from K Connell. I seem to remember the tubers being pretty long and thin. I'll be selling more than trading this year in an effort to cut back. I'll let you know how productive this was for tuber making.
Imageteddahlia
Sep 18, 2013 9:04 PM CST
Name: Ted
Oregon
We enjoy breeding new dahlias!
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Here is a picture of a red seedling that is just about as pure a red as there is. No adjustment to camera, just cropped to fit the frame. Not really very good form but it sure is red.
We like to place a sign on our porch that says: We are in the garden. Really, we are always in the garden.
ImageIslander
Sep 18, 2013 10:51 PM CST
Name: Noni Morrison
Warren, Oregon
retired flower farmer
Nicely photographed too to show that red...good camera skills!
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ImageMaryNZ
Sep 19, 2013 12:41 AM CST
Name: Mary St George
New Zealand

I really like it, Ted.
My photos are licensed CC BY (Attribution). More Dahlia photos here.
I also spend time in FB Dahlia groups at http://www.facebook.com/groups/363854624030/ and http://www.facebook.com/groups/dahlias/
ImageCCvacation
Sep 19, 2013 4:25 AM CST
Name: CC
PA
Is this seedling a good contender to be a parent to some of next year's seedlings, to try to capture that red with better form?
CC
ImageBenny101
Jan 4, 2015 5:25 PM CST
Greenville MI - zone 5b
Red chat anyone ?
We have ordered a few nice Reds this year ,
Did anyone order Bloomquist Cayson S ? I kind of like that one but did not order it .
Imageteddahlia
Jan 4, 2015 5:29 PM CST
Name: Ted
Oregon
We enjoy breeding new dahlias!
I saw Bloomquist Cayson S at a show and it looked nice but I do not usually make recommendations just from shows as I like to see plants in the ground.
We like to place a sign on our porch that says: We are in the garden. Really, we are always in the garden.
ImageIslander
Jan 4, 2015 7:40 PM CST
Name: Noni Morrison
Warren, Oregon
retired flower farmer
I am looking forward (I HOPE) to my AC Kuntz from last year NOT getting its top knocked off, and being allowed to put out more of the beautiful blooms that I only had one of last year as it recovered. I thought my single Kuntz was just beautiful . Has anyone else grown this one? It was new last year. He had another one that was a b sized that looked nice too and was supposed to be fade proof.

I have thrown away a LOT of Reds that just didn't make what I wanted...older Swan Island ones that got virused and I gave up on. Usually they had a pretty flower the first year then dwindled. I started an Ethel Herbert from a slip last year, It was very nice but formwise it did not knock my socks off, nor did it produce the number of flowers I needed...I will move it into the main garden next year and give it more reliable care and see how it produces. I think my best red was Mingus Kyle D. I also liked my Hy Sockeye's a lot. I had loadsof Caproz Jerry Garcia that were excellent but too big and heavy for the bouquets I was making so I have LOTS of tubers to give away. I got this from Teresa quite a few years ago, and it is excellent stock.. very full flowers without green hard centers. (at least I don't remember any). I think I somehow ended up with 4 vigorous plants so they made many tubers. My favorite red last year was River's Rosebud, an 2nd was Verrones (stellar) Maddy V. I will be planting 3 of each this year hopefully and they should supply me with all the reds I really need of That size range. I still love Ms Prissie but it color fades in bright sun so it is not a bright true red. I use a lot because I like the antiqued dark red that it turns. And I will be growing lots of HH Rudolph and HH Hotshot to fill in bouquets with,

After looking at all the Hapet dahlias today I think I might order that Hapet Bordeaux from Teresa for a darker red. It looks very dramatic!Thumb of 2015-01-05/Islander/9699f1 Hy Sockeye..(Should look brighter...this was my malfunctioning camera)
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Caproz Jerry Garcia

Mingus Kyle D
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These 4 all had big strong healthy plants. If I could only have one it would be River's Rosebud.
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ImageBenny101
Jan 4, 2015 7:50 PM CST
Greenville MI - zone 5b
The stock photo looks nice , I bet it would look nice in the garden .

We did decide to try
Hillcrest Duncan Edwards
Cynthia Huston ( again )
HH Big Red
HH Shogun
I would not mind having a nice smaller red SC or C but I'm not sure where I would put it , I see a need for expansion .


ImageIslander
Jan 4, 2015 8:04 PM CST
Name: Noni Morrison
Warren, Oregon
retired flower farmer
OH COURSE YOU DO, BENNY Rolling on the floor laughing Rolling on the floor laughing Rolling on the floor laughing Rolling on the floor laughing
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ImageFlowernut
Jan 4, 2015 8:24 PM CST
Name: Jane
Southern California Zone 9/10
Last year was very challenging due to our very hot, prolonged summer and my battle with spider mites. My Hollyhill Jester was very nice at the beginning, but I lost the plant later in the season. The only other red that I had success with was Hollyhill Firelight and I just loved it. I have been growing dahlias going on 5 years and not had a season that lasted very long so it is hard to have a true picture of any of the dahlias I've grown. This year the reds I will be growing are Santa's Helper, Too Sexy, Hollyhill RPT, Mingus Kyle D, Red Balloon, Stillwater David A, Hollyhill Black Beauty, Hollyhill Jester, Hello There and Sandra's Tiffany. I plan on taking cuttings of all my tubers and I'm still on the fence about whether or not to plant the mother tuber. Just about all the mother tubers rot (for a few years in a row this has happened) and the cuttings performed much better last year as a whole. I do have a saved tuber of Hollyhill Firleight that hopefully I can get a cutting from.

I'm practicing my picture uploading skills!Thumb of 2015-01-05/Flowernut/8a25c7 I know that this picture has nothing to do with red. I just had to practice.

Jane
"In joy or sadness, flowers are our constant friends"-Kazuko Okakura
Imagetodgor
Jan 4, 2015 9:37 PM CST
Name: Tod Gordon
West Caldwell, NJ
I had AC Kuntz this year, it was quite tall, and the whitish tips were interesting.

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I liked Hart's Blood Red too.

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ImageIslander
Jan 4, 2015 9:58 PM CST
Name: Noni Morrison
Warren, Oregon
retired flower farmer
To, thanks for sharing the picture! I had no idea it had white tips on it. It looks like the red stayed nice through the season though. By "quite tall" I am not sure how to interpret that from your forest garden to my sunny plain. Would that be over 6 feet or over 5' do you suppose?
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Imagehonnat
Jan 4, 2015 10:07 PM CST
St. Paul, MN
I decided to take it a little easier on reds this year....and then I started ordering reds. Oh-well.
I'm adding:
Aitara Rufus
Bloomquist Cayson S
Bloomquist Dane
Bloomquist Thomas
Hollyhill Valentino
Nick Sr.
Skipley Bonanza

Dark Reds...
Dark Sider
Hollyhill Black Beauty
River's Rosebud

Flames w/red...
Baron Christopher
Creekside Volcano
Rock Run James
Sandia Comanche


Last year, my favorite reds were Hillcrest Duncan Edwards and Hollyhill Loverboy.
Imagetodgor
Jan 4, 2015 10:20 PM CST
Name: Tod Gordon
West Caldwell, NJ
Probably 7 or 8 feet. I had this animal fence around the beds for awhile, so I did not get close enough to it while it mattered to tie it well, so it wasn't straight upward either. I recall being frustrated I could not reach the blooms to cut most. It's probably my neighbor's trees motivating it.
ImageIslander
Jan 4, 2015 11:52 PM CST
Name: Noni Morrison
Warren, Oregon
retired flower farmer
Oh MY! I will just call it "one of the tall ones" then and put it with the other 's that are over 6'.
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ImageCCvacation
Jan 5, 2015 6:53 AM CST
Name: CC
PA
Flowernut wrote:
I'm practicing my picture uploading skills!Thumb of 2015-01-05/Flowernut/8a25c7 I know that this picture has nothing to do with red. I just had to practice.


Practice is good, especially when it has to do with showing dahlia pictures! Thumbs up

What are the varieties in the image? Gorgeous background, by the way. Makes me want to see more!

CC
ImageCCvacation
Jan 5, 2015 7:01 AM CST
Name: CC
PA
Flowernut wrote: I plan on taking cuttings of all my tubers and I'm still on the fence about whether or not to plant the mother tuber. Just about all the mother tubers rot (for a few years in a row this has happened) and the cuttings performed much better last year as a whole. I do have a saved tuber of Hollyhill Firleight that hopefully I can get a cutting from.


When we talk about the 'mother tuber,' we're referring to last year's starter tuber that gave us a plant and this year's 'new' tubers... Is that what you mean, too?

I'm confused, because you have some new ones in your list, and wondering if you are considering not planting tubers AT ALL and just doing cuttings. Or perhaps your plants don't tuber well for you, and all you have is the previous season's mother tuber going into this season from your current varieties?
CC

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