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Imagetodgor
Jan 5, 2015 9:55 AM CST
Name: Tod Gordon
West Caldwell, NJ
A great bright red I grew for a few years is Kea Lynn, a B:

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Imageteddahlia
Jan 5, 2015 10:38 AM CST
Name: Ted
Oregon
We enjoy breeding new dahlias!
AC Kuntz was only about 5 feet tall here in the full sun. It was pretty vigorous and I did dig the tubers meaning that I will probably grow it again. It looked a lot like AC Kahuna to me me and I would not be surprised if they are related. For those of you who are not familiar with AC Kahuna, it is an A sized in a maroon red purple that grows so vigorously that it is a sight to behold. Flower is a bit coarse as is AC Kuntz.
We like to place a sign on our porch that says: We are in the garden. Really, we are always in the garden.
ImageBenny101
Jan 5, 2015 10:52 AM CST
Greenville MI - zone 5b
I ordered two tubers of AC Kahuna I'll have to remember to give them a bit of extra space .
ImageFlowernut
Jan 5, 2015 10:55 AM CST
Name: Jane
Southern California Zone 9/10
CCvacation wrote:

When we talk about the 'mother tuber,' we're referring to last year's starter tuber that gave us a plant and this year's 'new' tubers... Is that what you mean, too?

I'm confused, because you have some new ones in your list, and wondering if you are considering not planting tubers AT ALL and just doing cuttings. Or perhaps your plants don't tuber well for you, and all you have is the previous season's mother tuber going into this season from your current varieties?


CC-Yes, I'm considering just planting all cuttings this year and no tubers. By the time I realized my tubers had a problem (rotting) last year it was too late for me to plant anything else. I'm not sure if I would actually be able to put the plan into practice. The gardener in me would probably scream. Smiling I shouldn't have referred to the tuber as the "mother".

ID on my bouquet: Front row l-r: First two 18th Surgical Hospital, Irish Mystic. Back Row l-r: sunflower, Esmerelda (looked more dark red in my garden), Irish Mystic and Esmerelda
Jane
"In joy or sadness, flowers are our constant friends"-Kazuko Okakura
Imagetodgor
Jan 5, 2015 2:33 PM CST
Name: Tod Gordon
West Caldwell, NJ
I had AC Kahuna in an 11" pot and it shot up to 6 feet or so anyway. It was enterprising enough to stick a tuber out of the pot drainage hole into the nearby soil. I really liked the bloom color too, very saturated.

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ImageBenny101
Jan 5, 2015 4:53 PM CST
Greenville MI - zone 5b
I looked at HH RPT many times thinking of ordering it but did not want to pick up more than one or two new WL because I did not want to expand that bed , now I have decided to relocate the WL bed and have room for several ,guess I'll have to try it next year .
ImageFLflowerboy
Jan 5, 2015 5:20 PM CST
Name: Jon George
Gainesville, FL
...crazy enough to grow dahlias in
AC Kahuna was the tallest dahlia in the garden...
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Second year tubers clumps made the tall ones...can't be beat in the heat!

Also, AC GPS must be a first cousin...very nice here.
"What is a weed?" asked Peppa Pig. "A weed is a cheeky plant growing in the wrong place!" replied Grandpa Pig.
Imagehonnat
Jan 5, 2015 11:09 PM CST
St. Paul, MN
todgor wrote:A great bright red I grew for a few years is Kea Lynn, a B:

I'm pretty sure I got my stock from you Todd. It's a great bright red that doesn't fade. The plants are amazingly sturdy and strong and grow to about 5 ft for me. I wish the form was a bit better; and at least in full sun, the stems are a bit short. But I think I managed a blue ribbon with it at both of our shows this year as it has little competition in it's class (B-FD-R).

Ted, I'd like to order up one of these, with a little better form, longer stems and in A sized. Got to keep it bright red though. Can you do that for us?

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ImageClearCreekDahlias
Jan 6, 2015 9:46 AM CST
Western New York State
Dahlias! Dahlias! Dahlias!
Some reds I have:

Sport of Snoho Les
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Asia
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Black Narcissus
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Cynthia Huston
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Dana Iris
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Danum Meteor
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Dauntless
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Drummer Boy
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Frigoulet
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George C
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Hart's Laura Ann
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Hillcrest Duncan Edwards
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Hollyhill Black Beauty
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Juanita
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Knee Deep
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Piedmont Rebel (heirloom Southern variety)
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Red Hat
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Rip City
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Siddhartha
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ImageIslander
Jan 6, 2015 9:55 AM CST
Name: Noni Morrison
Warren, Oregon
retired flower farmer
That is quite the array of reds, and quite different from my array of them!
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ImageIslander
Jan 6, 2015 10:17 AM CST
Name: Noni Morrison
Warren, Oregon
retired flower farmer
That is quite the array of reds, and quite different from my array of them!

Here are some of the reds I especially like
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And of course, Hollyhill Rudolph, which I used more of then all the other reds last year.
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and one last shot of my favorite of all, RIver's Rosebud
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Imageteddahlia
Jan 6, 2015 10:41 AM CST
Name: Ted
Oregon
We enjoy breeding new dahlias!
All of the pure colors are harder to breed than blends that seem to appear all the time. Formal decorative flowers are really hard to breed in the larger sizes. That is why I think Formby Kaitlyn is one of the best bred dahlias of all. I have never seen a formal decorative flower, so perfect and so large. But this is the red thread. Formby Kaitlyn makes few seeds and somebody ought to cross it with some red ones to see what appears. I do know if you cross Kaitlyn with something like Hollyhill Big Pink you get a big yuk(ugly flower with poor form and fading ugly color). I tried crossing it with a ball dahlia but no seeds formed despite many attempts. Maybe next year.

Very nice collection of red flowers at Clear Creek. Sidartha is from Blossom Gulch and it competes with Hollyhill Shogun at the shows. I have seen some very nice Sidartha blooms and enjoy seeing them go head to head.
We like to place a sign on our porch that says: We are in the garden. Really, we are always in the garden.
ImageClearCreekDahlias
Jan 6, 2015 11:56 AM CST
Western New York State
Dahlias! Dahlias! Dahlias!
I really liked Siddhartha. It bloomed its head off all summer, and had very nice form and color. I liked the size and shade of red better on Asia (also from Blossom Gulch). Both of them are "keepers"!

AC Angry Bird grew more orange than red for me, even with some shade, but it was a flower machine!

I didn't post photos of Spartacus, Red Balloon, Paul Z, FDNY, or Cornel as I'm sure everyone has seen these. I also grew Creve Coeur, but was disappointed by the color--too dull for me.

Miss Scarlett (not to be confused with Hollyhill MS)
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Contraste
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Taratahi Ruby (lost it all in storage last winter when the temps got down to -20 something)
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It was always more orange than red for me, but I liked it.
Imageteddahlia
Jan 6, 2015 12:10 PM CST
Name: Ted
Oregon
We enjoy breeding new dahlias!
An old red one that we used to grow and like was named Exquisite Pleasure and I always thought it had a very interesting name. It was bred by the same person who gave us Sarah Mae, the late Roy Takeuchi.

Mak's Royal Ruby is a seedling of Taratahi Ruby and is winning at the shows. http://www.clearviewdahlias.com/p/?pid=79

We have a red waterlily cut flower variety that will be released in 2016. It is the most vigorous growing waterlily that we have ever grown. Needs a name.
We like to place a sign on our porch that says: We are in the garden. Really, we are always in the garden.
Imageedewitt
Jan 6, 2015 12:19 PM CST
Name: Eric DeWitt
Mountainair, NM
I purchased Elmbrook Rebel a few years ago because it seemed like a great red semi-cactus (if I remember correctly) but squirrels got to the tuber messed up the eye. It sprouted another two shoots but they never really grew. Anyone have any experience with that particular one? I'm probably gonna purchase Nick Sr., Kenora Wildfire, Cynthia Huston, and maybe Aitara Rufus if I can find it again. I do love some bright reds.
ImageIslander
Jan 6, 2015 3:21 PM CST
Name: Noni Morrison
Warren, Oregon
retired flower farmer
I was surprised by how badly Mak's Royal Ruby faded last year. I'll take one of the older red waterlilies over it if they don't fade as bad. HH RPT was great but not prolific. R Mona went open centered like all of the stock from that seller...otherwise a huge plant with brilliant color I left to grow just to add color to the fenceline.. I have a couple of Taratahi Ruby's on order. I should have added a new R Mona to see if I could get the color in a closed center flower. I am looking forward to the new HH Red Waterlily.
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Imageteddahlia
Jan 6, 2015 3:42 PM CST
Name: Ted
Oregon
We enjoy breeding new dahlias!
The parent of Taratahi Ruby was Red Velvet and it is one of the best red ones out there but it does have some yellow near the center. The colors on Red Velvet are extremely saturated and look really good in the garden. Tubers are long and very skinny and the necks break if you breathe on them. If you know that and dig carefully it does make a few nice tubers. Google it and the Euro dahlias picture is the most accurate. Link too long to post. I beleive I shared the story of it's origins in a post a few years ago.
We like to place a sign on our porch that says: We are in the garden. Really, we are always in the garden.
ImageBenny101
Jan 6, 2015 5:49 PM CST
Greenville MI - zone 5b
Wow some very nice Reds everyone ,
Clear Creek , is Danum Meteor nice ? Yours looks pretty good . Your Drummer Boy looks good too , I saw a whole row of it at Hamilton and it was all droopy stemmed and open centered it looked terrible probably the worst thing I remember seeing all year .
Imageteddahlia
Jan 6, 2015 7:43 PM CST
Name: Ted
Oregon
We enjoy breeding new dahlias!
Danum Meteor is a nice giant dahlia that is about 11 inches in diameter. I have heard that makes a few seeds too(well I know it does as it did for us). I should get it back and use it in breeding.
We like to place a sign on our porch that says: We are in the garden. Really, we are always in the garden.
Imagetodgor
Jan 6, 2015 9:14 PM CST
Name: Tod Gordon
West Caldwell, NJ
I would really like to get my hands on the real Big Wow again. The current one sold by von Bourgondien is not it, rather a smaller wine red bloom that doesn't interest me. Real Big Wow was a 12 foot tree of sorts with massive heavy blooms on thick stems, very very red. Hence the name.

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