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Imageteddahlia
Dec 11, 2012 12:58 PM CST
Name: Ted
Oregon
We enjoy breeding new dahlias!
Many dahlias are advertised as being black or almost black. I have been lobbying the ADS to recognize black as a dahlia color. Florists recognize dahlias as being black flowers and in fact on a florist's list of black flowers, dahlias top the list:
http://blog.interflora.co.uk/top-10-black-flowers/ Pictured is Ebony Star
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We like to place a sign on our porch that says: We are in the garden. Really, we are always in the garden.
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Imagehonnat
Dec 11, 2012 5:02 PM CST
St. Paul, MN
The more you point it out, the ADS colors could really stand some updating. Some dahlias that lean more toward black are in the DR (Dark Red) category, and some are in the PR/BK (Purple/Black) category. It would be nice to have them all in the same place.

I haven't tried too many black dahlias. The darkest I've had are HH Black Widow and Snoho Monika. Loved them both, and they seem to get a lot of attention in the garden.
ImageIslander
Dec 13, 2012 6:43 PM CST
Name: Noni Morrison
Warren, Oregon
retired flower farmer
RICHT ON! I have a number of Black dahlias and that is what I call them, BLACK! HH Black WIdow, Black Monarch, Black Satin, LIghts Out, Black Cat, plus Crossfield Ebony. Ebony is BLACK! Black Touch and probably more. I love the black ones for drama and depth in a bouquet
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Imagetgarland
Dec 17, 2012 3:50 PM CST
Name: Tim Garland
Boise, Idaho
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Here is Verone's Obsidian. Looks black to me.
ImageMaryNZ
Dec 17, 2012 6:07 PM CST
Name: Mary St George
New Zealand

Inside the base of the rolled petals, does it have collarette petaloids? I can see something in there.
My photos are licensed CC BY (Attribution). More Dahlia photos here.
I also spend time in FB Dahlia groups at http://www.facebook.com/groups/363854624030/ and http://www.facebook.com/groups/dahlias/
Imagetgarland
Dec 18, 2012 11:18 AM CST
Name: Tim Garland
Boise, Idaho
Yes it does. I have heard that some people pull them out for shows.
Imageteddahlia
Dec 28, 2012 2:05 PM CST
Name: Ted
Oregon
We enjoy breeding new dahlias!
I see that a couple of places still list Pot Black MB for sale. It is really very black too. We grew it way back when and even got some seeds from it. I may try to acquire it again and have Margaret cross it with our "black" varieties and seedlings. We have been growing a little M FD "Black" seedling for a few years and Margaret always insists on growing it another year although I have not seen much potential in it. Thumb of 2012-12-28/teddahlia/1ce2fa
We like to place a sign on our porch that says: We are in the garden. Really, we are always in the garden.
Imageteddahlia
Feb 11, 2014 7:28 PM CST
Name: Ted
Oregon
We enjoy breeding new dahlias!
Black must be a very popular color. Hollyhill Black Beauty sold more tubers for us than even our new introductions this year. We are are totally out of it. But the last time I talked to Bob at Linda's Dahlias, they still had it for sale.
We like to place a sign on our porch that says: We are in the garden. Really, we are always in the garden.
Imagedrewtheflorist
Feb 12, 2014 7:04 AM CST
Name: Drew the Florist
14 miles S E of Pittsburgh
Brides like the black flowers including the "black" callas-- Captain Palermo, Schwartzvalder, Odessa, roses Black Magic, Black Baccara----but in a bouquet, if you're more than 3 feet away, it looks like a hole in the bouquet. I try to talk them out of "black" flowers especially for an evening event, then you really look like you're carrying a "black hole " !
ImageCCvacation
Feb 12, 2014 5:34 PM CST
Name: CC
PA
Ted, is your BLACK Black Beauty sport wintering okay?
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Imageteddahlia
Feb 12, 2014 6:27 PM CST
Name: Ted
Oregon
We enjoy breeding new dahlias!
I have not run across it in my tubers/ clumps. I doubt that it sported enough to make any difference. If I did save it, I will post on this cubits thread.
We like to place a sign on our porch that says: We are in the garden. Really, we are always in the garden.
ImageCCvacation
Feb 12, 2014 9:54 PM CST
Name: CC
PA
Thumbs up

Now I'm seriously considering adding one to my order... Trying to resist.
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ImageCCvacation
Jun 1, 2015 5:37 AM CST
Name: CC
PA
RedmondPhyllis
May 31, 2015 11:28 PM EDT
Name: Phyllis Stengl
Redmond, WA
Life is short. Enjoy!
Where's the discussion on black dahlias???? The darks that I have this year don't come quite as close to black. I have Karma Chocolate, Nuit d ete? and Summer Nights. Don't know how dark Nuit d ete gets yet. I lost Arabian Nights, and a couple other dark ones last year. What are everyone's favorite darks?
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anniecan
Jun 1, 2015 6:07 AM EDT
Name: Annie Luck
Apex, North Carolina
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Phyllis, I will be growing Voodoo, Black Satin, and Rip City for comparison this year. Of course, I've been wanting to add HH Black Beauty and Black Widow for a while now, hearing that those are tops
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Imageteddahlia
Jun 1, 2015 10:10 AM CST
Name: Ted
Oregon
We enjoy breeding new dahlias!
Rip City has been one of Swan Island Dahlias more popular varieties over the years but it has always had health problems. For many years they have been selecting healthy plants and then take cuttings from them to keep the stock healthy.
We like to place a sign on our porch that says: We are in the garden. Really, we are always in the garden.
ImageIslander
Jun 1, 2015 10:18 AM CST
Name: Noni Morrison
Warren, Oregon
retired flower farmer
I have Verrone's Obsidian, HH Black Beauty, Shadow Cat,HH Black widow, Ebony Star, Kenora Macop B,. hoping they survive in their pots until I can get them in with the white roses and the black/ white dahlias like Contrasted and a Tartan and Irish Blackhart.
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Imageedewitt
Jun 1, 2015 5:26 PM CST
Name: Eric DeWitt
Mountainair, NM
I've got Verrone's Obsidian (1) this year from Em, I'm looking forward to seeing it again. It's been (one of many) favorites ever since the first bloom I had back in 2011 when I spent $25 on just one tuber which I felt silly at first for spending but didn't regret once it started blooming prolifically and gave me a ton of tubers. I'll get Ebony Star (2) again one of these days.
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Imageteddahlia
Jun 1, 2015 7:09 PM CST
Name: Ted
Oregon
We enjoy breeding new dahlias!
Let us know which one is darker black. My bet is on Ebony Star but I know Roland Verrone would never agree.
We like to place a sign on our porch that says: We are in the garden. Really, we are always in the garden.
anniecan
Jun 1, 2015 7:37 PM CST
Name: Annie Luck
Apex, North Carolina
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Interesting to hear that about Rip City Ted. It looks good so far,but I'll keep an eye on it.
Imageedewitt
Jun 1, 2015 11:40 PM CST
Name: Eric DeWitt
Mountainair, NM
I'd say Ebony Star is the darker of the two but just barely, if anything that's the case for my hot dry climate in Boise.
ImageClearCreekDahlias
Jun 2, 2015 6:06 AM CST
Western New York State
Dahlias! Dahlias! Dahlias!
Never had an issue with Rip City stock. Nevet had an issue with tuber quality or storage. Planting a fifty foot row of it this summer. It is a really good cut flower, and can win at shows as well.
Hmm..for some reason, I can't upload a photo this morning. ????
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