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ImagePNWGal
Dec 11, 2014 4:11 AM CST
Name: Linda
Portland OR, zone 8b
One of my favorites is Fool's Gold, a bold B-size informal decorative that shades from golden yellow to golden orange in each flower (I'll put up with the occasional white petal that gives it its name). My plants are looking a little mottled in the leaves & less vigorous than they were, so I am looking for new stock. I am ordering some from Jan's, the only one listed on the Big List as carrying it, but I am looking around for alternate possibilities.

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ImagePNWGal
Dec 11, 2014 4:34 AM CST
Name: Linda
Portland OR, zone 8b
There are a lot of yellow dahlias out there, but few golden-yellow ones. Here are a few that I know of. I wish they had the range of shades in each flower that gives Fool's Gold its depth and character.
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Encore, the all-gold version of Show-N-Tell

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Sassafrass, the all-gold sport of Cheyenne

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Glencoe Gold, a newer B-size golden-orange that Verrone's is selling this year. I saw it and liked it at a couple of shows, where it was a real contrast to the yellow laciniates, like the one in the background.

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Andrew Charles, a BB that makes a great cut flower. I grow it, but it isn't big enough to have the punch I am looking for.
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ImagePNWGal
Dec 11, 2014 4:39 AM CST
Name: Linda
Portland OR, zone 8b
Swan Island has one called Honeymoon that I am going to try, since it is an A-size. One of the reviews on the Swan Island site says it is varied in color and is yellow with orange tones, which sounds like what I am looking for, but the Swan Island listing says it is soft orange, so we'll see. I don't remember seeing it in the fields, which means either it wasn't there or it didn't make much of an impression on me.
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mandolls
Dec 11, 2014 7:00 AM CST
Name: Geof
WI
I am a fan of Candle Light. Its a smallish WL with not great form, but the colors really glow, and its a good bloomer with long strong stems.

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ImageCCvacation
Dec 11, 2014 7:28 AM CST
Name: CC
PA
Linna was a stingy bloomer for me this year, but I might give it a second chance in my garden because of the stunning blooms in golden tones. Probably too deep for a good waterlily show flower. Thumb of 2014-12-11/CCvacation/0a324c


Looking forward to a chance to grow Rancho and Monets Glory
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Imageteddahlia
Dec 11, 2014 9:15 AM CST
Name: Ted
Oregon
We enjoy breeding new dahlias!
All these gold-yellow-orange dahlias and I could not resist posting a picture of work in progress.
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We like to place a sign on our porch that says: We are in the garden. Really, we are always in the garden.
ImageBenny101
Dec 11, 2014 10:52 AM CST
Greenville MI - zone 5b
I really liked the color of Country Sweetheart , pictured here with Ms Kennedy
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Imageteddahlia
Dec 11, 2014 11:03 AM CST
Name: Ted
Oregon
We enjoy breeding new dahlias!
For dahlia breeders, the color of Country Sweethart is the result of two pigments. The base yellow is covered lightly by the red pigment and since there is very little red, the color looks orange. If the base color were white, the overlaying red pigment would be pink.
We like to place a sign on our porch that says: We are in the garden. Really, we are always in the garden.
ImageBenny101
Dec 11, 2014 3:46 PM CST
Greenville MI - zone 5b
Fascinating stuff . I liked that the blooms came on in different shades from light golden orange to a soft peach , great little garden variety with lots of lasting cuttable blooms , the stems on ours were a bit rubbery but that could very well have been my bad .
ImageIslander
Dec 14, 2014 12:55 PM CST
Name: Noni Morrison
Warren, Oregon
retired flower farmer
Linda, if you haven't ordered Honeymoon yet, I have tubers I can share. I have grown if for several years. I Like it but its not going to make the final cut this time for me. It is quite a nice flower but not an exciting one and I found I was not using it much in my bouquets. I liked the looks of Andrew Charles but it was bruising badly when I transported them to market, so I eliminated it last year. I think the one I settled on for these tones is Nicholas. That deep burgundy red down in the base gives the oranges and golds a visual depth that makes it pop for me, and it holds up nicely for transportation to the market.Thumb of 2014-12-14/Islander/ca7d2a
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addicted
Dec 14, 2014 4:14 PM CST
Name: Em
NY
Noni, if your Wyn's Sensation stays closed-centered like the photo, I'd love one. The only closed bloom I got on mine last year was the first one...after that they all went open. Such a lovely color too!
Em in NY
Dahlias -- the gift that keeps on giving!
ImageIslander
Dec 14, 2014 4:35 PM CST
Name: Noni Morrison
Warren, Oregon
retired flower farmer
YES! Mine were all closed centered! Glad to save you a couple!
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Imageteddahlia
Dec 16, 2014 4:08 PM CST
Name: Ted
Oregon
We enjoy breeding new dahlias!
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Love that Woodland's Wildthing. A triple at the Eugene show.
We like to place a sign on our porch that says: We are in the garden. Really, we are always in the garden.
ImageIslander
Dec 16, 2014 4:29 PM CST
Name: Noni Morrison
Warren, Oregon
retired flower farmer
One of my top summer cut flowers. Woodland's Wildthing is always covered in flowers and they are nice from the beginning of the season to the end. The colors stay nice no matter what weather. It was still going strong at the end of the season when I cut them down.Thumb of 2014-12-16/Islander/6a8720
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ImageCCvacation
Dec 16, 2014 7:44 PM CST
Name: CC
PA
Interesting... Mine were great early on, then got really weak-stemmed and open centered the last month of blooms. They were still lovely, but frustrating.
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ImagePNWGal
Dec 16, 2014 8:11 PM CST
Name: Linda
Portland OR, zone 8b
What do people think about Woodlands Wildthing vs Dr John Kaiser? They look so much alike to me, or at least each comes in variations that look like the other. Somehow WW is classified as orange, while DJK is a flame.
ImageIslander
Dec 16, 2014 9:04 PM CST
Name: Noni Morrison
Warren, Oregon
retired flower farmer
I have only grown WW because just from the pics I couldn't see enough difference to grow both. So I am interested in other peoples take on this too.
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Imageteddahlia
Dec 16, 2014 9:31 PM CST
Name: Ted
Oregon
We enjoy breeding new dahlias!
Since Dr John Kaiser is a seedling of WW, they are similar. WW is bigger and has brighter colors. Dr John Kaiser does well in shows and is a very pretty flower too.
We like to place a sign on our porch that says: We are in the garden. Really, we are always in the garden.
ImageCCvacation
Dec 16, 2014 11:59 PM CST
Name: CC
PA
WW is a SC B, and normally grows to size for me on a very tall unstable plant.
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DJK is actually classified as an ID, B, though normally it looks like a SC to me, and normally doesn't even get close to a B size...
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DJK grows around four feet for me, with a well-proportioned plant and very good stems that need disbudded to bring the bloom out of the leaves

I've found that DJK changes through the season, more so then WW, and there is no 'bad' phase during these shifts...

Early-season
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Mid-season
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Late season
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Comparing side-by-side

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If I were to choose one of the two to grow, it would be DJK hands-down, for more vivid coloration, smaller (and more usable) blooms and better stems with a more contained plant.
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Imagedrewtheflorist
Dec 17, 2014 7:20 AM CST
Name: Drew the Florist
14 miles S E of Pittsburgh



If I were to choose one of the two to grow, it would be DJK hands-down, for more vivid coloration, smaller (and more usable) blooms and better stems with a more contained plant.
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