Discussion of Colors, Forms or Varieties forum: comment on cultivars please (any bad traits?)

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ImageLinariaD
Feb 22, 2016 3:04 AM CST
Name: Lin
Europe-Switzerland, z 7b
Hello there,
before I send off an order for just some more Dahlias, I would like to hear your opinions about them

I was looking for following:
good cutflowers (just for my own fun) so, probably tall plants
not fussy, vigorous
medium to good tuber maker (my Taratahi Ruby would be "medium", having 3-5 fingers that are worth storing in fall)

I noticed that some Swan Island cultivars are recommended as cut flowers, even though the plants are described as 3feet only. So I tried to avoid those and meant to pick plants that are at least 4 or better 4 1/2.

Flower size: I rather prefer BB or even M, but I noticed that my flowers tend to be smallish anyway, compared to catalogue description, I guess, there is still potential regarding feeding and watering...

Lynett

Chilson`s Pride

are those following look-alikes? they seemed very similar in the pics:

Sheer Heaven

Peaches and Dreams

October Sky

Summer`s End

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Not too shabby

Leila Savanna Rose

Bahama Mama

Koppertone

Molly Ann

thanks for any information,

bye, Lin
Imageteddahlia
Feb 22, 2016 9:33 AM CST
Name: Ted
Oregon
We enjoy breeding new dahlias!
Chilsons Pride probably holds the record as the most popular dahlia in history at least in the USA.* But as they say: "the bloom is off the rose" meaning that it is no longer as popular. It is still very nice if you get good stock and even poor stock does pretty well. It's faults as a cut flower are few but as a show flower the "in between" form and especially the notched florets are major faults. Everybody should grow Chilsons Pride at least once.

*In the world the most popular variety of dahlia is probably Kelvin Floodlight, the giant yellow flower sold in truckloads(make that giant ship loads) by the Dutch growers. It is a rather poor tuber maker and that is good for the Dutch as they get repeat sales. Remember they sell small clumps not tubers and dahlias that make big tubers make big clumps that are too heavy.

I will let the cut flower people who have grown these flowers comment on the rest of them.
We like to place a sign on our porch that says: We are in the garden. Really, we are always in the garden.
ImageLinariaD
Feb 22, 2016 2:12 PM CST
Name: Lin
Europe-Switzerland, z 7b
Hello Ted,
thanks, good to hear that about Chilson`s Pride.
I would order from Swan Island (they ship overseas and are not yet sold out...), do you happen to know whether their CP is good stock?

And I actually have seen Kelvin F even around here in the DIY-markets and garden centers, interesting, that it could become a sales hit

bye, Lin
Imageteddahlia
Feb 22, 2016 2:40 PM CST
Name: Ted
Oregon
We enjoy breeding new dahlias!
do you happen to know whether their CP is good stock? I have no idea. Certainly, it should be available in Europe.
We like to place a sign on our porch that says: We are in the garden. Really, we are always in the garden.
Imageteddahlia
Feb 22, 2016 9:45 PM CST
Name: Ted
Oregon
We enjoy breeding new dahlias!
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Chilson's Pride looks pretty good in this winning basket. Other flowers are Parkland Rave(one of the very best for all purposes) and a rare one called Korb's River Bend. Basket by Christy Park of Park's Dahlias.
We like to place a sign on our porch that says: We are in the garden. Really, we are always in the garden.
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ImagePNWGal
Feb 22, 2016 10:04 PM CST
Name: Linda
Portland OR, zone 8b
I'm glad you have a picture of Korb River Bend Jean, the white stellar. (Of course, Christy could put a rock in a basket and it would look good!)
ImageCCvacation
Feb 22, 2016 11:27 PM CST
Name: CC
PA
Sheer Heaven and Summers End seem to have tuber issues, but are beautiful blooms in their own right. I've enjoyed growing both, but am moving on as they aren't worth the overwintering struggle.
CC
anniecan
Feb 23, 2016 6:44 AM CST
Name: Annie Luck
Apex, North Carolina
BE THE CHANGE YOU WANT TO SEE IN TH
My top vote would be for Peaches and Dreams.
Everyone loved it in bouquets, including me Smiling
Unfortunately, I lost it in the flooding, but I'd definitely grow it again.
Imageteddahlia
Feb 23, 2016 11:06 AM CST
Name: Ted
Oregon
We enjoy breeding new dahlias!
Summers End was on the cover of the 1994 Swan Island catalog. It was hot stuff back when.
We like to place a sign on our porch that says: We are in the garden. Really, we are always in the garden.
portia
Feb 23, 2016 4:10 PM CST
Southern PA, Brandywine
CCvacation wrote:Sheer Heaven and Summers End seem to have tuber issues, but are beautiful blooms in their own right. I've enjoyed growing both, but am moving on as they aren't worth the overwintering struggle.


A fellow farmer posted THE MOST gorgeous picture of a big bunch of Sheer Heaven, it made me want it AGAIN. I tried 2 years in a row with it with no success but I'm so tempted. Trying to be distracted by other tubers for now haha.
ImageLinariaD
Feb 27, 2016 10:37 AM CST
Name: Lin
Europe-Switzerland, z 7b
Hello
thanks for all your answers.
What a great pic, Ted, Chilson's Pride looks so good in the basket
CC thanks for pointing out the tuber issues

I think I send my order to S I this weekend.

I was swamped for the last days, travelling to a perennial convention, and both ways I had serious delay, and no Internet at the small hotel-thingy.

So after 4 hours of delay on the train, at home I browsed through the Dahlia cubit to relax...

Have a nice weekend, bye, Lin
Imageteddahlia
Feb 27, 2016 11:23 AM CST
Name: Ted
Oregon
We enjoy breeding new dahlias!

Since you are in Europe, have you considered this company in Latvia?
http://ilzedahlia.wix.com/dahlias
We like to place a sign on our porch that says: We are in the garden. Really, we are always in the garden.
Imagesylviap
Nov 10, 2020 1:01 PM CST
Name: Sylvia
West Sacramento, CA Zone 9b
? What?
ImagePaige
Nov 10, 2020 1:11 PM CST
Name: Paige
Snohomish
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