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ImageAguane
Mar 4, 2011 10:13 PM CST
Name: Susie
Phoenix AZ
I'm going to be retiring from corporate America very soon. I lost my Standard Poodle, Bert, April 20 and his brother Jan. 16 2005. I really want to adopt a couple doggies.

I'm seriously thinking of adopting 2 mini poodles. Must be poodles due to my allergies. Since I'll be retired April 1 of this year I'll have a lot of time at home and for adventures with the doggies. I'm wondering what sort of experiences you all have had with adoption. Things, unknowns, I should be aware of. Unintended consequences and unexpected joys.

This weekend I'm going to an "Adopt-a-thon" at the Franciscan Retreat here in Phoenix. I just want to test the waters. It's a very happy, robust, vibrant event for the adoptables and those seeking pets/companions.

Appreciative of any insight you can pass along!
Susie
"There are only two ways to live your life. One is as though nothing is a miracle. The other is as though everything is a miracle." --Albert Einstein
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ImageLance
Mar 5, 2011 8:05 AM CST
Name: Lance Gardner
coastal plain Virginia
Question authority, guide in wisdom
I will need to be brief, but there are some thoughts to keep in mind. First, there are lots of wonderful adoptable dogs that only need a good home to be wonderful companions. Second, there are also lots of dogs with serious problems that require lots of dog psychology knowledge, patience, and training to help them overcome what they have gone through. Like choosing any companion, you also need to ensure the personalities are compatible. If you want a quiet, calm dog, don't pick the exuberant one. There is a wonderful article right here about Petri.
I adopted a dog many years ago. He was a wonderful companion, and we had a great time. However, he could never overcome his background. Every time he saw moving boxes, he would get sick, which means he was probably left at the shelter when his original family moved away - he never forgot the moving boxes. The third time he saw the moving boxes, he got sick with cancer and died a few short months later, much younger than he should have.
If you adopt a dog with unknown background, you must be prepared for unknown personality quirks to pop up, and be able to deal with them. When you get a dog of known breed, from a reputable breeder that has treated them well since the beginning, you have fewer (but not necessarily none) possible behavior issues to deal with.
Carol Lea Benjamin, my favorite dog author, has a book something like "Second hand mutt, how to turn yours into a first rate dog." It has some good insights.
My current 2, the labs pictured above, are not purebred. A friend of mine wanted to breed her bitch because she really wanted to continue her best friend's lineage. I agreed to take 2 because I am not concerned about purebred status, but did want a known background. I wanted to make sure they would be good with my young son.
I hope others will leave their opinions, as well, so you can get a variety of responses.
Look and listen for the welfare of the whole people and have always in view not only the present but also the coming generations, even those whose faces are yet beneath the surface of the ground -- the unborn of the future Nation. The Constitution of the Iroquois Nations.
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Imagegardengus
Mar 5, 2011 8:24 AM CST
Name: Cinda
Indiana Zone 5a
Truth is worth finding
Susie,
THere are a lot of rescue groups out there and the animals are in private homes (foster Homes)) You can gain a lot of insight into the personality quirks of the animal by talking to their foster family. Many if not all also have a trial period so if the animal does not work out it can be returned to find a better fit. I think this is a good way to go , being a foster home for some 13+ years.
Shelters also have some great pets , but it is a little more potluck and some shelters don't work with the people after the adoption, you are on your own. Having said that my last two dogs were from the local shelter and have been great companion.

Good luck on finding a great match
Cinda
Imageflaflwrgrl
Mar 5, 2011 6:43 PM CST
Name: Ann
North Central Fl
Susie, Lance & Cinda are both right & have made excellent points in my opinion. My DH & I always had shelter or "throw away" dogs. But for this most recent dog, we decided that a purebred was the best choice for us at this stage of our lives. One needs to consider all the possibilities. Sometimes shelters don't know what mental challenges the dog will have to overcome nor what health problems the dog may harbor. Most shelters try very hard but some don't & some just don't have the funding to do good medical checkups etc....

Here's hoping you will find the perfect companions!
"If there are no dogs in Heaven, then when I die I want to go where they went."
Will Rogers
ImageAguane
Mar 5, 2011 8:32 PM CST
Name: Susie
Phoenix AZ
Thanks everyone,
I have to share. I had the most awesome experience today.

Thursday night I submitted an on-line application for adoption with Arizona Poodle Rescue. I had seen a couple minis on their site that interested me. The woman who received my email responded that she'd keep my app. on file and to follow up with her when I'm ready to explore adoption.

I the meantime, I read in the paper on Friday that The Franciscan Renewal Center (Retreat) was having an Adopt-a-thon. Cats, dogs, rabbits, horses etc. It's a really nice event at the retreat (monks) outdoors, tents and very well represented rescue agencies. Decided to attend. On my way driving over there I thought I'd like to name a new pup/dog/poodle "Remy". Just thought of it out of the blue - wild thought.

So, I park the car, approach the venue and the third tent in is the azpoodlerescue.org ... I didn't know think or suspect they'd be there. I approach the tent, meet a foster guy, Mike, and his Parti. Go to the back of the tent and meet Merlin, Australian Shep/Standard Poodle and GORGEOUS... in the process of being adopted. Then. Yea. Guess what. I meet Remy. Remy is a 6 yr old black male they found at the pound just about to be put down. Of course, AZ rescue rescued him. He's small for a Standard (my preference). I was dumbfounded. He was sweet and responsive.

Of course, I'm waiting until I retire to get a dog but this event is providential. I've sent an email to the woman I first corresponded with to let her know my interest. Asked to meet him again. If he's not adopted by now it's not meant to be. But, somehow, I think it was meant to be.

We'll see.

The topper is that I left the event and went to Whole Foods for shopping. Told my Fish Guy that I'd met Remy..... His Boxer who has passed over is named Remy.

The great thing is that I got to meet these folks who foster and determine the rescue's behavior, etc. .. and they got to meet me. I'll follow up Big Grin
I leave you with that.
"There are only two ways to live your life. One is as though nothing is a miracle. The other is as though everything is a miracle." --Albert Einstein
~ All Things Plants, SOUTHWEST GARDENING ~Cubits.org ENERGY & POWER
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Imageflaflwrgrl
Mar 5, 2011 8:42 PM CST
Name: Ann
North Central Fl
Well there you go Suzie. Sometimes things work in mysterious ways. Serendipity maybe. Call it what you like. I think a breed rescue org. is a great way to go.
Let us know what ends up happening. And thanks for this interesting update.
"If there are no dogs in Heaven, then when I die I want to go where they went."
Will Rogers
ImageLance
Mar 6, 2011 7:04 AM CST
Name: Lance Gardner
coastal plain Virginia
Question authority, guide in wisdom
Thank you everyone for your responses, and helping out Susie. Please keep us updated on what happens. Sometimes destiny comes out to greet us, doesn't it?
If anyone has other thoughts, continue to post them so this thread can be helpful for others that may looking into adopting, rescuing, or purchasing a new companion. Having any kind of pet should never be taken lightly, especially a social animal like a dog.
Look and listen for the welfare of the whole people and have always in view not only the present but also the coming generations, even those whose faces are yet beneath the surface of the ground -- the unborn of the future Nation. The Constitution of the Iroquois Nations.
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ImageAguane
Mar 6, 2011 10:37 AM CST
Name: Susie
Phoenix AZ
Yes, thanks everyone.
In my case, so far, I think it's important to get to know and trust the care and judgment this particular rescue group is doing. Their motto is "we do what's right for the dog". I believe they are honoring that. They told me Remy had been with them just 3 days and he wasn't ready for adoption. They had to get to know him better. They said he was sweet. He did press the side of his head against my knee... you know how they do that.

In the end it will all work out.
Keep you posted.
"There are only two ways to live your life. One is as though nothing is a miracle. The other is as though everything is a miracle." --Albert Einstein
~ All Things Plants, SOUTHWEST GARDENING ~Cubits.org ENERGY & POWER
Imagegardengus
Mar 6, 2011 8:58 PM CST
Name: Cinda
Indiana Zone 5a
Truth is worth finding
Smiling
Thanks for the update, great story
Will be watching and waiting , with fingers crossed.
careyana
Mar 11, 2011 8:46 PM CST
Name: Carey
Austin, TX
New arrival to the group. :)

We have three goldens all from different situations. We had decided we wanted a puppy before our old golden Ginger died (she was around 10 at this point). We found a reputable breeder, paid our deposit after the initial screening and waited for them to be old enough. Ginger died three weeks before the puppy came home (still makes me cry) so she was alone most of the day while DH and I worked. We decided to get her a 'buddy' since she needed some exercise outlet during the day. Went with a local golden rescue group. They do excellent analysis on each dog and keep them a minimum of 30 days to evaluate. Brooklyn joined us near Cassia's 7 month birthday. Our third joined us from a craigslist posting where a desperate girl wanted to find a home for her 'baby'. Gracie was 6 months old and barely housetrained (but had been through obedience) Three females from three different backgrounds. They get along amazingly well and are the sweetest dogs.

They're all good dogs, as Cesar says, just waiting for the right owner. :)
Imageflaflwrgrl
Mar 11, 2011 8:58 PM CST
Name: Ann
North Central Fl
Welcome to the group Carey!
"If there are no dogs in Heaven, then when I die I want to go where they went."
Will Rogers
careyana
Mar 12, 2011 12:11 AM CST
Name: Carey
Austin, TX
Thank you Ann! I just love there's a cubit about one of my favorite animals. Smiling
ImageLance
Mar 12, 2011 7:33 AM CST
Name: Lance Gardner
coastal plain Virginia
Question authority, guide in wisdom
Thanks for sharing your story, and joining us in this discussion. Any time you have stories or thoughts to share, please do so. Photos of our buddies are also fun. Mine are above, on the banner. I am looking forward to hearing more about your adventures.
Look and listen for the welfare of the whole people and have always in view not only the present but also the coming generations, even those whose faces are yet beneath the surface of the ground -- the unborn of the future Nation. The Constitution of the Iroquois Nations.
Dogs; Family Fun Unplugged; Perennials, Annuals, Veggies; Happy Birthday Wishes
ImageAguane
Mar 12, 2011 11:08 AM CST
Name: Susie
Phoenix AZ
Hi again everyone. Thank you for sharing "tails" of your adoption experiences!
Short update.
I did receive a follow up email from the first fellow I talked to at the ArizonaPoodleRescue.org tent last Saturday. He said he didn't know when Remy (6 yrs) would be ready to adopt. I think this entails assessing his behavior with cats, kids, folks, other dogs and his health and general behavior. I also factor in that he could be of interest to someone in the "inner circle" of the agency. Mike did state that the foster he was caring for, Chloe, 9 yrs old, is adoptable very soon. A very sweet girl whom I also met that day.

Something difficult about adopting a 9 yr old. In a few short years one will most likely have to go through this decision making process again. You never know when you'll need to go through the process even if you adopt a puppy but it's "most likely" you'll have to go through it with an older dog. The payback is that you know you've given a good home to a sweet dog who doesn't have an entire lifetime to be with you. Truth be told, if I were ready right now and both Remy and Chloe were ready I'd adopt both of them.
"There are only two ways to live your life. One is as though nothing is a miracle. The other is as though everything is a miracle." --Albert Einstein
~ All Things Plants, SOUTHWEST GARDENING ~Cubits.org ENERGY & POWER
Imageflaflwrgrl
Mar 12, 2011 11:20 AM CST
Name: Ann
North Central Fl
Susie, Hear, hear re: your last paragraph.
Keep us updated as time goes by.

And then again, Chloe could surprise everyone & end up living to be 20...you just never know. Few things in life come with guarantees.
"If there are no dogs in Heaven, then when I die I want to go where they went."
Will Rogers
careyana
Mar 12, 2011 1:06 PM CST
Name: Carey
Austin, TX
Aguane, since we didn't have a fenced yard at the time, the rescue organization does not prefer to adopt out their dogs to our type, except in rare cases (we displayed good general welfare and a well-behaved puppy in our favor) and choose to adopt 'senior' dogs. Brooklyn is indeterminate age (she was guesstimated between 7-9 due to teeth wear and a white face) She never acts like an 'old lady!' She'll probably live another 5-6 years.
mom2goldens
Mar 12, 2011 8:10 PM CST
Name: Linda
Carmel, IN
We've adopted all of our dogs, through different means.

We work with a local basset hound rescue group. We fostered many bassets before finally adopting what was to be our last foster. We'd decided to stop fostering because our golden retriever was beginning to grieve too badly every time a foster left. Our last foster was considered pretty much unadoptable (behavior and health issues). He was a difficult dog, but we made it work.

Our two goldens were both adoptions from families needing to give them up. Our girl, Greta, came from a "backyard breeder" who learned she had mild hip displaysia and couldn't breed her. He kept her as a pet for a while before deciding he really needing a breeding dog. Greta was 4 1/2 years old when she came to live with us, and had never set foot inside a house til the day we brought her home. It took a while, but she came to enjoy the comforts of a house, but retained all of her outdoor dog "sense". She could track birds, chipmunks, etc with the best of them. Greta lived to be 16 1/2 years old, and we were thankful for every day with her.

Our second golden, Whisper, came to live with us at age 2 1/2. He was owned by a family that had several show dogs. Unfortunately, they learned Whisper had juvenile cataracts, so he could not be bred. Since he had to be neutered, he could not be shown, so they chose to give him up. They interviewed many families that were interested in him, and we were fortunate enough he came to live with us. He was actually a rather shy and fearful dog at first. We did LOTS of obedience training which really helped his confidence. He even became a certified therapy dog! Whisper was taken by an aggressive cancer at age 11. I still miss him, but am so thankful he was in my life. We lost Greta and Whisper within 6 months of each other, and we were heartbroken.

We now are the proud owners of Jake. He was being rehomed by a newly-married couple. Jake (husband's dog) and cats (wife's pets) did just not do well together. Since husband had moved into wife's home, he decided it was probably best to let Jake move to a new home. We are so happy we were chosen to be Jake's new family. He is an awesome dog (age 4 1/2 when we adopted him in August of 2010). We found him almost by accident--stumbled upon an ad in our local paper (which I hardly ever read). He is a perfect combination of both Greta and Whisper, both in looks and personality.

Although adopted dogs sometimes come with some baggage, they also can bring so much love, gratitude, and teach us so much. In my opinion, seniors are just the sweetest of all.

Sorry for the length of this post. This thread just kind of triggered a lot of memories.
careyana
Mar 12, 2011 11:35 PM CST
Name: Carey
Austin, TX
mom2goldens - I couldn't agree more! Brooklyn came from the same 'backyard breeder' background, except she was bred until no longer productive then dumped on the side of the road. She has certain fears that we've worked to overcome (she's terrified of the hose and most running water) and cowers at loud voices but what a sweet, loving, eager to please dog. We're so glad she's in our home.
Imagevalleylynn
Mar 13, 2011 12:12 AM CST
Name: Lynn
Dallas, OR zone 8
Hi Susie, sorry I am late coming to this thread. Sounds like you have already received wonderful advice.
Remember many poodles live into middle teens. I helped place 5 standards about 5 years ago, ages 7 to 9. All but one are still with their adoptive families and are happy and healthy. I am so thankful that those wonderful dogs (none of which had ever been socialized) had the opportunity to have a loving family. Every one of them became the most awesome well adjusted family companions.

You are right, when the time is right your special canine companion will come along.
Imagezenpotter
Apr 3, 2011 8:56 AM CST
Name: Pauline
Minneapolis, MN
So I am popping in really late. I have two rescue poodles. Joey a mini parti poodle from a puppy mill. We have had him for a little over two years and Rocket a red toy. Rocket came from a dog hoarder that had used him as a stud dog. We have had Rocket since January. They are great friends with each other and our 12 year old rescue cat. Each of them has their own quirks so don't we all. Yes some of theirs come from neglect or abuse. Every pet I have had has been a rescue and all have given me so much love and pleasure I am so very lucky.

p.s. Both of my children came from orphanages and are wonderful humans.

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