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Mindy03
Jul 4, 2011 1:20 PM CST
Name: Margaret
Delta KY
I'm A Charley's Girl For Sure
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Meet Dusty our newest puppy. We just got her Saturday afternoon. She's half Great Pyrenees and half Husky. She's 8 weeks old. She's white with a light dusting of brown all over so we decided to name her Dusty. We are hoping to train her to help work cattle. I haven't got a clue where to start after basic training on that so any suggestions would be appreciated.

She was really tired when we got her home and choose this spot for her first nap.
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She is going to be an outside dog and I had planned to keep her outside from the beginning but my husband is smitten and told me she was too young to stay outside by herself. So she gets to stay inside for now which is OK really as it gives me time to house break her in case she needs to be inside for some reason later on. She's already learnt what outside and go back in means. Her first night she decided to sleep in the bedroom with everyone else.

Today she's more lively and busy exploring the rest of the house. She doesn't seem to interested in chew toys but did have fun playing with her new teddy bear this morning.
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After playing with her bear she got a lesson in leaving my potted plants alone. She already knows what No means but she has a hard time resisting biting anything green and gets mad at the pots when she bumps into them during play. Her mission right now is to get Smokey our half German Shepherd and half Chihuahua to accept her and play. He's interested in her but has to go through the jealousy stage before he will act sociable. She's the first dog we've had here that he hasn't been mean to. Even when he growls at her to behave he's not mean sounding like with the others.
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denimangle
Jul 4, 2011 3:56 PM CST
Name: Cheryl White
Butler, Texas
hes just telling her who the boss is ,as long as hes not growling over food .. if he is well trained let him train her
she is a cutie
Imageazreno
Jul 4, 2011 4:06 PM CST
Name: Lynn Reno
Mesa, AZ
Purple Rocks!
She's adorable!!! I love how describe her and her playing, it's obvious how much you love having her around. I love puppies Lovey dubby Cheryl, I saw your puppies on another thread, ....too flippin' cute!
denimangle
Jul 4, 2011 4:31 PM CST
Name: Cheryl White
Butler, Texas
thanks Lynn . Sold one today another one goes to his new home Wed. We are down to one the little white guyThumb of 2011-07-04/denimangle/7041e1
Mindy03
Jul 4, 2011 4:47 PM CST
Name: Margaret
Delta KY
I'm A Charley's Girl For Sure
Thank you. Smokey isn't bothering her over the food neither is his mom, Mindy. Mindy is staying away from her as much as possible I think because she's so young. We just came in from being outside for the last couple hours. She didn't want to come in and I wanted to weed the sidewalk gravel path so while she played and took a nap I weeded. Smokey is trained to behave and come when called but that doesn't mean he always does what he's told Hilarious!
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Imageazreno
Jul 4, 2011 7:14 PM CST
Name: Lynn Reno
Mesa, AZ
Purple Rocks!
lol Margaret, they aren't perfect but we love them anyways!

Cheryl....aaaaaawwwwwwwww Lovey dubby
ImageLance
Jul 5, 2011 7:18 AM CST
Name: Lance Gardner
coastal plain Virginia
Question authority, guide in wisdom
Thanks for sharing with us, she sure is a fun looking dog. I must ask though how did a chihuahua/German shepherd mix ever happen? That would seem a literal imposing obstacle to overcome.
Sorry I can't help with cattle training, as I have never done that, only basic household, companion, obedience type training. I do remember that the dog needs to identify with the other critter they are protecting as being part of their 'pack', and therefore needs to spend a lot of time right from the very beginning with the other animals.
I will give one of my favorite suggestions, which is to go to the library and get some books on it, then make the time to read them Hilarious! .
Let us know how it progresses, and maybe this thread can be used by others hoping to do similar training.
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Mindy03
Jul 5, 2011 8:28 AM CST
Name: Margaret
Delta KY
I'm A Charley's Girl For Sure
Thanks Lance. She wants to be outside today so I'm letting her stay out on the front porch with access to the yard and shade. She has water, food and her toy to keep her amused.

From what we were told the German Shepherd was the smaller of the breed. And I actually put Smokey's lineage wrong. His daddy was the GS/Chihuahua mix. Smokey's mom is full shih tzu.
Here's Buddy, Smokey's daddy

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Here's Mindy, Smokey's mom

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denimangle
Jul 5, 2011 11:52 AM CST
Name: Cheryl White
Butler, Texas
If you want her to be a guard dog for goats or sheep you need to let her live with them not in the house with you ..
I know that sounds tough but thats what they do take care of the heard that raised them ...
Mindy03
Jul 5, 2011 2:21 PM CST
Name: Margaret
Delta KY
I'm A Charley's Girl For Sure
Hmmm He's not wanting her to guard the cattle just help him with rounding them up when he needs help with that (not often those dumb cows come running when they hear his vehicle coming) guard the gate opening when he's trying to separate them. When not working cattle with him he wants her to guard our house and property. That's why I'm not sure how to proceed with training her for what he wants with the cattle or when I should start her on that kind of training.

She has a bit of a temper. After another bath trying to ease her itchy skin with a shampoo for that she expressed her displeasure by flipping her food bowl over and eating the food from the floor. She's also starting to bark at us to get our attention sometimes.
ImageLance
Jul 5, 2011 2:31 PM CST
Name: Lance Gardner
coastal plain Virginia
Question authority, guide in wisdom
That's not a temper, that is personality! Either way, do not let such behavior continue, as it only gets more challenging to correct it. I have typically found the best way to is to ensure good obedience training, and use things like sit, stay to keep control during potentially challenging situations. My dogs, as example, must sit and wait until I say OK before they are allowed to eat. That way, I do not have dogs dancing under my feet. If the bowl is dumped, tell her to sit, stay while you put it back in the bowl. If it happens again, take it away and try again in a little while. She should learn real soon that such behavior will result in an empty belly.
Look and listen for the welfare of the whole people and have always in view not only the present but also the coming generations, even those whose faces are yet beneath the surface of the ground -- the unborn of the future Nation. The Constitution of the Iroquois Nations.
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Mindy03
Jul 5, 2011 3:21 PM CST
Name: Margaret
Delta KY
I'm A Charley's Girl For Sure
Thanks Lance. Then I need to work on the obedience training right now. She's learning to sit pretty well but hasn't got it down pat yet.
ImageLance
Jul 5, 2011 4:20 PM CST
Name: Lance Gardner
coastal plain Virginia
Question authority, guide in wisdom
Training is a never ending necessity; often dogs will test if you really mean it, and if you let it slip once, they will remember! Remember, however, that she is young, so don't stress her out with strict expectations already. Work on it as the individual dog seems able to need and handle it. Food is one area where they seem to get it fairly quickly, however!
Look and listen for the welfare of the whole people and have always in view not only the present but also the coming generations, even those whose faces are yet beneath the surface of the ground -- the unborn of the future Nation. The Constitution of the Iroquois Nations.
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careyana
Jul 5, 2011 6:29 PM CST
Name: Carey
Austin, TX
Much agree with Lance. We do the same with our dogs, where they must Sit, Stay before they eat.

Something else to ensure dominance is to feed the dog you've had the longest First. Never feed the puppy before the other dogs. We know the 3rd fed is the 'alpha' of the three but she definitely knows who feeds her. :)
Mindy03
Jul 5, 2011 7:34 PM CST
Name: Margaret
Delta KY
I'm A Charley's Girl For Sure
I'm taking it slow on training her. Just a few minutes each play time right now. I've been letting her get used to her new home for now. Feeding isn't really a problem for me because I fix their feed while they use the bathroom outside and they have their own pecking order set up. Dusty will be done the same except I'm feeding her outside instead of inside with the two housedogs. I started doing feeding this way with Mindy my oldest one because she wasn't properly trained when I got her and thought she could do whatever she wanted in the house. She learnt fast that no going outside to potty meant not getting fed because until she went I wouldn't put her food down for her.

I did let Dusty spend time alone outside on the front porch this afternoon. She did good but I know that will only last until she feels brave enough to explore further. We discovered she has 2 dewclaws on each back leg. First time I've ever seen 2 on one.
denimangle
Jul 5, 2011 9:42 PM CST
Name: Cheryl White
Butler, Texas
Margaret , Great Pyrenees nor Huskys are hearding dogs i hope you can get her to do what you want
ImageLance
Jul 6, 2011 10:03 AM CST
Name: Lance Gardner
coastal plain Virginia
Question authority, guide in wisdom
Certainly easier to get a breed meant for the task at hand, but it can be done with enough patience and training. If you really want a herding dog, you might want to consider getting one easier to orient towards that end. Great Pyrenees I think are more meant for protection. Overall, sounds like you have the training well in hand, good for you. As most dog trainers will tell you, it is often the person, not the dog, that needs training.
My own 2, and most other dogs I have had, listen to only me consistently because that is the only thing I enforce. Frustrates my wife, of course, but as my son said in a wonderful bit of insight (at the ripe old age of 7 I think), if you want them to listen to you, play with them more!
I am sitting here watching lots of rain, almost 2 inches in less than one hour.
Look and listen for the welfare of the whole people and have always in view not only the present but also the coming generations, even those whose faces are yet beneath the surface of the ground -- the unborn of the future Nation. The Constitution of the Iroquois Nations.
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Mindy03
Jul 6, 2011 10:28 AM CST
Name: Margaret
Delta KY
I'm A Charley's Girl For Sure
I agree that a intelligent dog can be trained for something specific if the trainer sticks with it. I think your son is correct in that playing with them will help in obedience because my husband doesn't do any of the training nor use the commands I teach them yet when he raises his voice and uses a certain tone they all do what he tells them. He does spend time playing with them. Our Mindy is very much her own master so to speak and while she will obey him she acts like she's doing him a favor Hilarious!

Dusty is going full blast today. She is making headway with Smokey, he now allows her to come up close to him. Mindy is also letting her get close but not like Smokey does. In her case I think she's feels too old to deal with a puppy. She's also sitting when I make the hand movement I use with her treat without the treat, she's happy to get petted for responding.
denimangle
Jul 6, 2011 5:02 PM CST
Name: Cheryl White
Butler, Texas
We Raise Aussie heard dogs. but I have poodles that will syre heard up the goats ...LOL
& People do cross aussies with Great Pyrenees around here to keep their goats & have some of the hearding in them
ImageLance
Jul 6, 2011 6:36 PM CST
Name: Lance Gardner
coastal plain Virginia
Question authority, guide in wisdom
For me, training is just part of raising and interacting. Commands must always be followed, and I train and enforce as I go through the day except for the initial ensuring that the command is understood. Spending as much time as possible with the dogs certainly helps to cement the bonding and give plenty of opportunities to learn how best to interact.
An Aussie Pyrenees sounds like an interesting mix. I have a lab that will sometimes heard my chickens for me, but I have to be careful she does not catch one and retrieve it!
Look and listen for the welfare of the whole people and have always in view not only the present but also the coming generations, even those whose faces are yet beneath the surface of the ground -- the unborn of the future Nation. The Constitution of the Iroquois Nations.
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