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ImageAguane
Apr 21, 2011 1:04 PM CST
Name: Susie
Phoenix AZ
I read a short but very interesting article by Jorge Chapa in The Guardian U.K. His article explains that DARPA (Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency) has funded U.S.$100 million toward the R and D of a certain species of algae for jet fuel to be used by the U.S. Department of Defense. They are on target for a cost competitive product of $3.00 per gallon.
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weeds
Apr 24, 2011 4:24 PM CST
This is exciting, will check into it. Wondering how and where they can produce that much algae?
ImageAguane
Apr 24, 2011 4:49 PM CST
Name: Susie
Phoenix AZ
I read an article about an Arizona company called PetroSun Biofuels. They have 1,100 acres near Texas Gulf area and are devoting 20 acres of salt water ponds (it's a salt water algae, not fresh water) to research and development of algae for experimental jet fuel. Article said they think the algae yields 30 times more energy than "nearest competitor (??) and that they will be able to produce 4.4 million gallons at that site. More sites are planned in Louisiana, Arizona, Brazil even and more. Commercial airlines, including Continental are committing to test flights. Virgin Airlines has already conducted a test flight using coconut and babassu oil.
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weeds
Apr 24, 2011 5:01 PM CST
Ahh, that makes much more sense, saltwater algae. Wonder if they could use wetlands to do that or would if ruin them? That is a stupid question, I know!
ImageAguane
Apr 24, 2011 5:08 PM CST
Name: Susie
Phoenix AZ
Yea, I'd guess just about everyone near a wetlands and then some would take up arms if the company wanted to slog through scooping up algae for jet fuel. The good news is I understand they don't need potable water, waste water will do and they don't need arable lands. Maybe even Bonneville Salt Flats would be a good place to grow the stuff!
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weeds
Apr 24, 2011 5:26 PM CST
Well, living on the coast, I say I prefer algae to oil drilling! And we have plenty of waste water so I hope they go for it, wish I had to land to sell them!
Steve812
Apr 29, 2011 1:40 PM CST
Name: Steve
Prescott, AZ
This is one biofuels plan that really makes sense to me. It doesn't use up either arable land or freshwater resources. And since the algae produces usable oils directly, there's very little energy lost to other refining steps. I'm looking forward to hearing more.
ImageAguane
Apr 29, 2011 2:15 PM CST
Name: Susie
Phoenix AZ
There's the 3rd Annual Algae Conference coming to San Diego in May 2011 - Let's go!

http://www.infocastinc.com/index.php/conference/algae11
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ImageAguane
Apr 29, 2011 2:19 PM CST
Name: Susie
Phoenix AZ
PBS special just two days ago.... I missed it but here's a replay of the short piece with Frank Sesno.

http://www.pbs.org/nbr/site/onair/transcripts/algae_alternat...
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Steve812
May 12, 2011 5:51 PM CST
Name: Steve
Prescott, AZ
Very nice! A 10:1 return on energy input. And they think they can get to $80 per barrel by scaling up existing technology. It may be some decades before that's our primary source of liquid fuel, but it seems like a very promising start.
ImageAguane
May 12, 2011 7:49 PM CST
Name: Susie
Phoenix AZ
I does and it seems to be a truly viable alternative that is seriously being considered, researched and developed. Nice to find out these things!
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