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May 21, 2011 4:55 PM CST
Name: Susie
Phoenix AZ

“Total crude oil imports [into the U.S.] averaged 8,013 thousand barrels per day in February, which is a decrease of 1,056 thousand barrels per day from January 2011.”

I was thinking about the article/link I posted in the NATURAL GAS / COAL / SHALE / GEOTHERMAL forum. The article is about the state of Washington setting a goal to close down their last coal burning plants in order to eliminate carbon emissions from coal. An environmental group has pushed the envelope and made a case that coal mined in Montana, transported through Washington and put on ships bound for China makes us, the U.S./Washington, responsible for the greenhouse fallout. U.S. coal burned in China.

I was reminded of the chart included in the link above showing the thousands of barrels imported by us daily. The 20 million barrels of oil used daily in the U.S., though not all burned by vehicles.

Our current “energy policy” which includes limited drilling, mining, extracting of ANY natural energy resource in the U.S. requires us to import. The fact that our policy dictates limited extracting [for environmental reasons] and requires us to import strikes me as extremely hypocritical. No matter where the oil comes from we are responsible for the carbon emissions (as referred to in the coal article argument.

What do you think?
"There are only two ways to live your life. One is as though nothing is a miracle. The other is as though everything is a miracle." --Albert Einstein
Jun 17, 2011 5:46 PM CST
Name: Steve
Prescott, AZ
There is a sense in which we share responsibility for carbon emissions for all goods we purchase - regardless of where the coal that provides the power for their manufacture is sourced.

If we are actually serious about renewable energy resources and carbon dioxide emissions, there would be a global tax on unburned carbon resources.

As I sit here in the comfort of my air conditioned home, knowing that the AC system is the by far the largest consumer of electric power in my home, I can turn to my TED system and watch it tell me that I'm generating 9 lbs per hour of CO2 to stay comfortable. Would a tax on carbon make me change my ways? It would drive up electric rates and I'd probably buy some more solar panels. I'd pay a little more for electricity between 7:00 pm and 9:00 pm. I'd make more money on the electricity I sell back to the utility earlier in the day. (And if it is true that the energy pay-back for the solar cells is one year, then at every point in time after that I'm reducing my energy footprint.)

Though I agree with their ultimate goal of a clean environment and a sustainable way of life, environmentalists griping rarely does much good, IMO.

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