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| Good morning, I am new to this site as well as to hoya's!! I have 5 plants and I'm not positive that they are all identified correctly.I have a Carnosa 'rubra' Krimson princess & krimson queen is the only name i know for the other one,they are opposites.One with white in middle with a touch of pink & the other white around edges,green in the middle.One was labeled H. bilobata/tsangii.One is a rope plant but I don't know what variety it wasn't labeled at all.The last one was labeled H. lacunosa. I know the different ones like different level's of moist,light & temp.I want to be sure to care for them all correctly!!!!  I will appreciate any advice you can give a newbie, to help me be successful at growing beautiful, blooming hoya's       they are in the same order as they are written at the top.If any picture isn't clear enough i will try again,my camera is old. thank you I asked for a flower and he gave me a garden,then grand-kids to work in it with me!!!! |
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| Your names seem to be correct. The 'Hindu Rope' is H. compacta but I don't know the 'name' given to the variegated form. Basically all but the H. bilobata/tsangii (who will ever know?) tolerated cooler temps and less light but all do well with the same treatment. Water thoroughly when dried out all the way thru..... Hope this helps... Carol Leap. The net will appear. |
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H. compacta "Regalis" is what I know the variegated EDGE compacta as....Not sure if that's an EA special or Cobia...  "When you have only two pennies left in the world, buy a loaf of bread with one, and a lily with the other." - Chinese Proverb |
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| thank you all so much for the answer's and advice, What's the difference in H.compacta & H. picta, someone did call it a picta one time? So all of my plants will do ok with part shade but will more sun help them bloom better & keep the leaf color brighter especially the variegated ones. The ones that are from EA nursery are the H. bilobata/tsangii and that's what the label said.The H.carnosa 'rubra' is another and that's what is was labeled.The little H.Lacunosa was also an EA plant. The other H. carnosa (not rubra) wasn't labeled at all.What is it's proper name? The H. compacta I bought at a nursery sale and it was sitting in a pot without any label at all (they were trying to sale the pot) she sold me the plant for $5 Do any of these plants take a long time to bloom or need to be a certain size or age etc...? Thank you very much,you have been very helpful and hopefully my hoya's will live to be old & beautiful plants I asked for a flower and he gave me a garden,then grand-kids to work in it with me!!!! |
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| HI...you might Google the names...and there are links to look up names too. Leap. The net will appear. |
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| Hi Jelinda...welcome to the Cubits hoya forum. The first plant is correctly called H. carnosa 'Krimson Princess'(it's called H. carnosa 'Rubra', as there is a hoya named H. rubra), the second is the carnosa 'Krimson Queen', the 3rd is NOT bilobata OR tsangii. Generally EA labels H. DS 70 as bilobata/tsangii, but your hoya doesn't look like a DS 70 to me...the leaves should be more rounded. Yours MIGHT be a dischidia...EA is notorious about naming dischidias as hoyas! Laura is correct in naming the H. compacta as 'regalis', though there are many names and different types of variegated H. compacta's. The final picture appears to be the "regular" H. lacunosa...there are at least a dozen different types of lacunosa. Yes, sun will cause more blooms and generally prettier plants, but introduce your plants very slowly to sun, otherwise, the leaves will burn to a crisp. Too little sun results in darker greens, too much sun results in very pale greens...even to the extent that the leaves are totally yellow. Some hoyas will bloom very quickly, i.e., your lacunosa, others require brighter light, others must be more mature to bloom...it all depends on your growing conditions...sunshine would work great in getting the carnosas and the compacta to bloom, but compacta tends to bloom in the fall...though all hoyas don't "know" the rules, and they can and do bloom at anytime. Most of my hoyas bloom during the winter months...and very few bloom in the hot part of summer. Beware that there are many sellers who label hoyas with different names simply to sell their plants! Best wishes, Patrick |
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| Taking a good look at the last photo...don't think it is H. lacunosa at all...nothing similar. I think it is the same one as your "H.bilobata/tsangii". There has a been a real dust up about that H. bilobata/tsangii - which is neither one...probably... It WAS known as H. DS 70 and then H. burtoniae and then XYZ and then zzx and then.... Just love them for what they are!!!!!  Leap. The net will appear. |
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| good morning, When i bought the H.bilobata/tsangii,I was looking for Hoya's and the first plant that caught my eye ended up being a Dischidia.I put it back and found the H.bilobata/tsangii. So i did have one to compare the differences with.But like you say and i have also noticed it's hard to find them labeled correctly unless you already know what it is!!! Carol i also thought i had 2 of the same plant.The only differences and with the one being so small who knows what it's leaves will look like as they get bigger.The H.bilobata has stiff,hairy leaves that tend to curl under at the edges. I would really like to id these 2 plants correctly if anyone will share a link to help id them I'd be very thankful!!! Have a nice day and thank you all for being so helpful and patient with me.    I asked for a flower and he gave me a garden,then grand-kids to work in it with me!!!! |
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| No two/four/10 etc. leaves on any two plants are going to be exact matches. You are, unfortunately dealing with some real confusion in the correct labeling...no two taxonomists seem to agree (at least, not to my knowledge). I still think they are the same plants and the only thing that will solve the mystery is when they bloom.... Leap. The net will appear. |
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| Thanks again Carol, I'm just hoping i have good luck getting them to bloom!!!  Have a lovely day!!! I asked for a flower and he gave me a garden,then grand-kids to work in it with me!!!! |
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| Give it very very high light/warmth. Strong indirect light and even sunlight in the morning or pm will turn the leaves a lovely red...and it will bloom. The leaves, not thin and kinda thick, indicate that you don't want to flood it...the roots can't take it up fast enough but the leaves absorb any moisture available. HTH  Leap. The net will appear. |
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| Ah, Carol...you have better eyesight than I do...though I didn't really believe the last picture was a lacunosa...but, if it was, it would have to be the "regular" one..which has no splotching on the leaves...though most lacunosas are fully glabrous and shiny. Jelinda, in the 3 1/2 years that I've been collecting hoyas, I've never found one correctly named H. bilobata...I'm not even sure if it's an available plant in the US. I do know, positively, that your plant is not H. tsangii....I have one from a dear friend on this forum....it has very dainty, shiny leaves, blooms are a fragrant yellow...one of my most favorite hoyas...Chris Burton has written extensively on this hoya....on the PSHoyan online journal. The Swedes, too, have written much about H. tsangii. Also, the photos that you posted yesterday do look much more like lacunosa....if so, you'll know soon, as this plant blooms almost constantly...even in subdued light...and the fragrance is wonderful. Let us know when your plants bloom...and best wishes! Fondly, Patrick |
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| Those leaves lack the dimpled areas on either side of the main costa, which gives H. lacunosa (lacunose) it's name.... Leap. The net will appear. |
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| Just had a long talk with Dorothy and she is looking for the article Ted published in FRATERNA re: H. tsangii/DS-70/H.odetteae to post on this forum.... After Dale published H. odetteae, Chris Burton decided that the plant SHE published as H. tsangii was not that and that H. odetteae was H. tsangii. Cancel that...NOT TRUE. Dorothy will post the article... Leap. The net will appear. |
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| Ha! Patrick... I forgot about the one like KP. "Mauna Loa" or "Lura Lei". Whoops! "When you have only two pennies left in the world, buy a loaf of bread with one, and a lily with the other." - Chinese Proverb |
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| Ah, Laura...there are simply too many names!! Carol...I truly should never attempt to identify a hoya from a picture...well maybe H. linearis...and I believe it's high time that I got my eyes checked!! |
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| Too true Patrick! Real names, slang names, Cobia names, EA names, Latin names, cultivar names, trademark names, multiple names for the same darn thing... Oh Golly! How can one keep up? Especially when I can't even keep the names of my step-daughters straight. I finally just started calling them Christephvickinie. I even have one for the Hoya tangle Carol mentioned too! How about "Hoya odettsang70ii"?  "When you have only two pennies left in the world, buy a loaf of bread with one, and a lily with the other." - Chinese Proverb |
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| Laura...I think that name is perfect...from now on I'll refer to those hoyas as odettsang70ii...it'll remove most of the confusion!! Fondly, Patrick |
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