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ImageHoyaDoug
Nov 2, 2011 7:10 AM CST
Name: Doug
Lamoille County, VT
No one started this one yesterday, so I guess I will start the month with what will be my last first time bloomer for a long time. Here is H. Cinnamomifolia. I do not have a great big umbel, but only a few flowers, but am still very happy, because I have really struggled with this plant over the three years that I have had it. I have had to restart it a number of times, and still do not know what kind of conditions that it would really do well under. Also photo of macgillivrayi that just opened and a picture of one unopened umbel of 16 buds the most ever on this plant.
Thumb of 2011-11-02/HoyaDoug/2592ba

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RandyBoatwright
Nov 2, 2011 9:31 AM CST
Beautiful plants and superb pics, Doug
ImageJulieK
Nov 2, 2011 10:01 AM CST
Name: Julie Kennedy
UK
Nice growing Doug! You may not have nailed your cinnamomifolia, but you do have it flowering - so you must be heading in the right direction.
...and those macgillivrayii buds and blooms, well, you've certainly sussed that beauty out! 16 buds?? Are you adding a shot of brandy to your fertiliser??
Thumbs up
Imageknghoyas
Nov 2, 2011 5:28 PM CST
Name: Kim Tipton
Western NY
Very nice Doug, I'm also having a hard time with H. Cinnamomifolia, it just droped it's last leaf the other day.........now I'm left with a 3' stem, I'll lay it in a pot stick it under the grow lights and keep my fingers crossed.
ImageHoyaDoug
Nov 3, 2011 6:40 AM CST
Name: Doug
Lamoille County, VT
Kim, I think it is closely related to purpureo-fusca, and I gave up on that one a long time ago. If I had to guess, I would say that it is very sensitive to getting over watered. It does the best for me in the summer after spending a month in the greenhouse. After bringing it inside it struggles no matter where I try to locate it.
AlohaHoya
Nov 3, 2011 12:19 PM CST
Name: Carol Noel
Hawaii (near Hilo)
It's all about choices.
I found the same to be true, Doug!!! Life is too short to mess with the fussy ones! I put purpureo-fusca out under a tree and it is growning like gangbusters with 150" of rain per year.

Go figger Whistling
Leap. The net will appear.
ImageHoyaDoug
Nov 3, 2011 1:48 PM CST
Name: Doug
Lamoille County, VT
150 inches of rain per year. There goes my over watering theory Hilarious!
AlohaHoya
Nov 3, 2011 1:52 PM CST
Name: Carol Noel
Hawaii (near Hilo)
It's all about choices.
Well...sometimes I have to water the plants under the trees as the overstory protects them from rain.... Confused
Leap. The net will appear.
ImageMyHoyas
Nov 3, 2011 4:07 PM CST
Name: Christina Karlsson
Sweden
As always... nice photos Doug!

Here's part of my linearis and I'm glad I only have about 12-15 umbels at the same time because their fragrance fill the whole bedroom. I've read it should smell like lemon, but I would more describe it like lemon mixed with something like smoked sausage. Smiling

Thumb of 2011-11-03/MyHoyas/9d5513

And a larger umbel of calycina:
Thumb of 2011-11-03/MyHoyas/273bc9
Imagemjsponies
Nov 3, 2011 5:34 PM CST
Name: mj
Deleon Springs, Fl
Although I don't have Cinnamomifolia, I'm thinking after reading this it likes very tropical conditions. A gal that posts on another forum that lives very close to me has an EA one that blooms like gangbusters for her. And she doesn't do anything in particular, hangs on her front porch, get's mostly morning thru late mid day bright light. High heat, humidity and not necessarily a lot of moisture on the soil, but in the air. It is one on my wish list.
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Mairzeedotes
Nov 3, 2011 10:09 PM CST
Name: Marcy
S. Calif
I have 3 H. purpureo-fuscas. One from DL, and the other 2 were little cuttings I that fell into my purse one day when I was visiting the L.A. arboretum. I grew them up & never did know what they were until they bloomed. Then I sent the picture of the bloom to CB & she IDd them as the true purpureo-fusca.
I think your theory that they thrive on neglect must be right as I ignored them for 3 years, just watering when I could find the time and energy (not often). I even left them outside in the cold (fortunately we didn't have any freezes those years).
Today they are all 3 big huge plants that I am wondering where to put for the winter. Ha. I think I may just leave them out there again until we get freeze warning.
Imagepropmaker
Nov 4, 2011 12:39 AM CST
Name: Dominic Murray
Lanzarote, Canary Islands

I find H purpureafusca one of my easiest Hoyas..it has grown into a big plant and regularily flowers in the spring. Beautiful flowers, like red wine. It dosent get any special treatment, and I just water it when I lift the backet and it feels light ,then I drench it. I got a start of H cinnamomifolia a couple of years back and it is growing the same, tho not a large yet. I keep both of mine under shade cloth outside on a lower level so a little less light, but bright filtered light in an open draining basket.
From what I've read..........Swedish Hoya Society.......they are now termed H cinnamomifolia var cinnamomifolia, and H cinnamomifolia var. purpureafusca and apart from the color of the flowers, are bassically identical. I havent flowered H cinnamomifolia yet, but the leaves do seem much longer than purpureafusca. Might like it a bit cooler Doug and a lot of fresh air....
Imagemjsponies
Nov 4, 2011 1:16 AM CST
Name: mj
Deleon Springs, Fl
Mairzeedotes wrote:I have 3 H. purpureo-fuscas. One from DL, and the other 2 were little cuttings that fell into my purse one day when I was visiting the L.A. arboretum.
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ImageJulieK
Nov 4, 2011 1:29 AM CST
Name: Julie Kennedy
UK
Nice blooms Christina! I hope you haven't got that calycina in your bedroom too - that would be a little overpowering! Lovey dubby
ImageJulieK
Nov 4, 2011 2:05 AM CST
Name: Julie Kennedy
UK
Ok, forgive me for being a little excited here...I have NEVER managed to successfully grow lacunosa or obscura (although I have cuts of both on the go right now, that are still alive)
Last night was a milestone for me...Hoya cv sunrise
Thumb of 2011-11-04/JulieK/63747e

Now I understand what you guys mean by the deliciously sweet fragrance Lovey dubby
Imagemjsponies
Nov 4, 2011 5:20 AM CST
Name: mj
Deleon Springs, Fl
Both Gorgeous Christina..is linearis fragrant ? I have calycina coming...should be here today !!! So maybe soon I'll get to enjoy it's fragrance too..
Yeah Julie !! on your cv. Sunrise...I'm sniffing from here !
ImageHoyaDoug
Nov 4, 2011 6:27 AM CST
Name: Doug
Lamoille County, VT
Beautiful cv. Sunrise Julie! I can also smell it from here. Christina outstanding linearis! I've got to get some new starts of that plant and try it again. I would like to try it in my very cool basement grow tent, and see how it fares. Also, very beautiful calcynia.

Here are two from this morning. Here is a macgillivrayii that came from Carol in a Hoya-Co-op on DG a few years ago. Carol, if you read this, do you have any idea what clone it is. All of the flowers have a white center. In DL's catalog he had one listed with a white center called Langkelly ck. Qld - Could it be that one? Here are Three photos of it. Two showing the flowers and another the entire plant.
Thumb of 2011-11-04/HoyaDoug/f9caa5
Thumb of 2011-11-04/HoyaDoug/54698d
Thumb of 2011-11-04/HoyaDoug/849abe

Here is another photo of the not very black "Black Dragon" with two open umbels now:
Thumb of 2011-11-04/HoyaDoug/40a348
Imagethreegardeners
Nov 4, 2011 6:56 AM CST
Name: Lee Anne Stark
Ontario, Canada
Perpetually happy!
wow! beautiful flowers everybody and congrats on the "firsts".

cv. sunrise blooms all summer long for me. Once it started blooming there was no stopping it. Inside or outside.

I should try to find a linearis too...maybe it'd like my cold 200 year old windows Glare

How tall are those Mac's Doug? I might just have to cave in and get a trellis or two for some of these guys that might appreciate it.
ImageHoyaDoug
Nov 4, 2011 7:55 AM CST
Name: Doug
Lamoille County, VT
Lee Anne, the big one is a little over 5 feet (1.5 meters) The small one is around 3 feet (1 meter).
Imagethreegardeners
Nov 4, 2011 8:08 AM CST
Name: Lee Anne Stark
Ontario, Canada
Perpetually happy!
hmmmmm...I just happen to have a trellis that would work. How big are the pots they're in?

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