Growing conditions forum: H. curtisii-observation

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AlohaHoya
Nov 16, 2011 11:10 PM CST
Name: Carol Noel
Hawaii (near Hilo)
It's all about choices.
My large H. curtisii is growing off the Lanai (screened in porch)... The whole plant is about 2 feet long.

I notice a DEFINITE growth pattern towards the shade where the fresh vines are thick. On the side of the light, the vines are thinner .... BUT...there are 2 umbels forming.

So....interesting, eh?
Leap. The net will appear.
Imagemjsponies
Nov 17, 2011 4:29 AM CST
Name: mj
Deleon Springs, Fl
Carol that is interesting. When I mounted my curtisii, I hung it on the wall of the greenhouse with the front facing north, so the plant is not getting sun, but the sun shines on the back of the mount. It took off gangbusters after I mounted it. I've also got it growing mounted directly on wood...not growing as fast, and getting more light. Several others growing in pots. All growing now in straight Long fiber sphagnum moss. Some getting more light than others, the BEST being the one mounted on the raft, mounted on the wall facing north.
I'm wondering if it needs just that bit more of light to get the blooming gear engaged ?
Dee2
Nov 17, 2011 9:17 AM CST
Name: Dee Enslow
Chipley, FL (panhandle)
Hmm, mine was doing great even though I had no buds or even peduncles, but when I brought it in the house it has started dropping leaves and even a few of the vines are dying. It is in a south facing window, maybe I need to move it to a less bright location.

Any opinions on this idea?

Dee
Mairzeedotes
Nov 17, 2011 10:50 AM CST
Name: Marcy
S. Calif
Yes, and the air is dryer in the house. Maybe take it back out during the day for a few days to let it adjust better. Then I would put it in a North window instead of a sunny one and mist it for a few days until it gets used to the lower humidity.
It is another one of those mystery ones for me.
AlohaHoya
Nov 17, 2011 11:06 AM CST
Name: Carol Noel
Hawaii (near Hilo)
It's all about choices.
This is one hoya that does NOT like to get dry...at all. Plants flower when they feel stressed (this does NOT mean ALL plants nor ALWAYS) and being on the bright side of where it hangs, I think this is normal.

I am going to turn the plant around and see if the umbels abort when they are in the shade.
Leap. The net will appear.
Imagemjsponies
Nov 17, 2011 1:03 PM CST
Name: mj
Deleon Springs, Fl
Dee I would get it out of the south window. I NEVER let mine dry out now. I keep it wet/warm/facing north, or blocked from sun. It's doing immensely better !
ImageLauraCarnosa
Nov 17, 2011 3:25 PM CST
Name: Laura Gardiner
Manitoba, Canada
You can't 'un-ring' a bell.
Always interested in curtisii observations...

"When you have only two pennies left in the world, buy a loaf of bread with one, and a lily with the other."
- Chinese Proverb
Imagecpawl
Nov 17, 2011 4:33 PM CST
Name: cindy
Delta, BC,Canada
A few of my observations with my curtisii.This summer I grew it outside facing south .I do have a sun room plastic type stuff with uv coating over my grow area.It was happy out side, after its bout of yellowing leaves and a few vines after bringing it home from the store.
This fall I put plant under my grow lights and again it got yellow leaves,so I guess its not to happy about being moved around.I had it hanging about 2 feet under the lights.
On another forum Michael Miyashiro wrote that curtisii likes a lot of light so I moved my plant to about 3 inches below the lights.It is growing very well right now.Lots of new growth and the leaves seem thicker.Thumb of 2011-11-17/cpawl/bcffdc
The top bit of the plant died right after I brought it home,maybe it will grow and cover that area up.Thumb of 2011-11-17/cpawl/adde6b
I don't let this one dry out.
ImageLauraCarnosa
Nov 17, 2011 6:08 PM CST
Name: Laura Gardiner
Manitoba, Canada
You can't 'un-ring' a bell.
I read MM's info, too Cindy. With great interest, I might add.... I like his posts! :-)

I've let mine dry out a time or two, not intentionaly. AND IT LIVES!!!! YAY!
But I may also add here, my home is quite humid. Like average 40%+ even in winter.
I do not have exhaust fans in my house.

Kept my curtisii indoors all summer, in the east facing kitch window. I now have a sunblaster above it, maybe a foot above? Keep watching those peduncles for signs of life!

"When you have only two pennies left in the world, buy a loaf of bread with one, and a lily with the other."
- Chinese Proverb
Imagecpawl
Nov 17, 2011 6:30 PM CST
Name: cindy
Delta, BC,Canada
It really is a shame how some people treated MM over on that forum.I took every thing he wrote as very good info.I do hope he hasn't been chased away. He has not been around lately.
I have those sunblaster lights all over my house.With my weather in winter every one of my hoyas would be dead come spring. Sad
Imagemjsponies
Nov 17, 2011 7:19 PM CST
Name: mj
Deleon Springs, Fl
So this is making me think about geographic location. Maybe south like Carol and I it would just be too strong/hot ?? I know when I had mine where it got alot of light ( no direct sun, just strong light ) is when it just about gave up the ghost. If I let it dry out it complained LOUDLY... one of the reasons I put it in the sphagnum was to salvage what was left of it. So far this is the best it's looked since I brought it home.
AlohaHoya
Nov 17, 2011 7:34 PM CST
Name: Carol Noel
Hawaii (near Hilo)
It's all about choices.
MM, Michael Miyashiro, is a great guy!!! I have known him for years...and I think the world of him. He is very knowledgeable about growing hoyas as well as many many other tropical plants. Please, someone, give him my best.

The BEST sunlight for hoyas is INDIRECT...bright but indirect.

Leap. The net will appear.
ImageLauraCarnosa
Nov 17, 2011 7:38 PM CST
Name: Laura Gardiner
Manitoba, Canada
You can't 'un-ring' a bell.
cpawl wrote:It really is a shame how some people treated MM over on that forum.I took every thing he wrote as very good info.I do hope he hasn't been chased away. He has not been around lately.

Mmmm. Agreed. I wasn't too happy about that. I WAS already aware of who he is, and I think he should be given respect. He's just very factual, less flowery than some! I admire how MD stepped right up to defend MM. It'd only figure because MD is very factual, too! If you don't like MM's advice, then don't read it. ~shrug~ I myself always read every word he wrote like it was scripture! (MD's too, for that matter!)

I did see some posts from him after that, and it seemed he was trying to be more jovial...
But I tell you I'd miss him of he were gone. I admire how he defended himself so eloquently...
Angel
"When you have only two pennies left in the world, buy a loaf of bread with one, and a lily with the other."
- Chinese Proverb
ImageCeeDub
Nov 17, 2011 7:40 PM CST
Name: Christine Wootton
Whitby, Ontario, Canada
I loved my curtisii, never let it get dry, it got lots of bright light, but very little sun. Unfortunately, my most painful observation of this plant is that when its leaves were dead, they still looked alive. Maybe I needed new glasses at the time, but it was a total shock to me when I took it down to take a "stray" visibly dead vine off that the whole thing was dead. Confused In fact it fell out of the pot because there were no roots attached. I'm' guessing that it got root rot, so is it in fact true that it should never get dried out? Perhaps it just likes to be kept "evenly moist", so drenching it and letting it sit in water is a totally bad thing. Now that I'm typing this, what occurs to me is, "duh, dya think?" Whistling

Oh well, another to add to my replacements list.


Christine
ImageLauraCarnosa
Nov 17, 2011 7:44 PM CST
Name: Laura Gardiner
Manitoba, Canada
You can't 'un-ring' a bell.
I'll send you a wad of cuts in the spring, dear friend. Angel

Unless.....mine had been secretly dead for a while now? Hilarious! Rolling on the floor laughing
"When you have only two pennies left in the world, buy a loaf of bread with one, and a lily with the other."
- Chinese Proverb
ImageCeeDub
Nov 17, 2011 7:49 PM CST
Name: Christine Wootton
Whitby, Ontario, Canada
Lovey dubby Thank you Laura, that's very kind - enabling an enabler can be very rewarding you know ... just saying... Big Grin
Christine
ImageLauraCarnosa
Nov 17, 2011 7:53 PM CST
Name: Laura Gardiner
Manitoba, Canada
You can't 'un-ring' a bell.
Free cuts are the best cuts! Maybe we can swap?
Then we can justify, "Well, it was free! Just postage!"

I've offered almost everyone here curtisii cuts, & received very few takers.... Confused

Maybe 'cause they've all "bin der, done dat" and know better!! Rolling on the floor laughing
"When you have only two pennies left in the world, buy a loaf of bread with one, and a lily with the other."
- Chinese Proverb
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Imagecpawl
Nov 17, 2011 8:12 PM CST
Name: cindy
Delta, BC,Canada
Carol, I believe MM lives some where around your area.I did send him a email to tell about this forum so I hope he will pop in and say hi.

Laura I had to report one girl to the complaint dep with how she treated him.I was happy it was removed from the forum very quickly.

Its good this one is so friendly. Smiling
ImageLauraCarnosa
Nov 17, 2011 8:18 PM CST
Name: Laura Gardiner
Manitoba, Canada
You can't 'un-ring' a bell.
Wow. Good for you, 'cause I was really offended & I'm not even a member.
Glad it was removed.

BUT- Mother says, and I've learned, *Blush* "You can't un-ring a bell." I tip my hat to you.
"When you have only two pennies left in the world, buy a loaf of bread with one, and a lily with the other."
- Chinese Proverb
Imagecpawl
Nov 17, 2011 8:27 PM CST
Name: cindy
Delta, BC,Canada
So true Laura,so true.

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