General Chat forum: Hoya Database
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| While photos of flowers are cool....I am really interested in seeing the leaves and the growth structure of the plant....as well as knowing something about how it is growing in the conditions of the person posting. If different people in different parts of the country post their own conditions....it would give a good 'database' on the plant. Do you think this could be done? Getting a picture of the flower when trying to identify is helpful....but perhaps more information would be more thorough? Anyone have any comments? Leap. The net will appear. |
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 all aspects of the plant can be helpful...especially when it sometimes takes forever to bloom one. Full shots of the plant showing how you grow it..hanging or tied on a trellis for example...are just as helpful as a flower shot. Don't get me wrong, flower shots are amazing and I have spent countless hours in the winter going over the flower shots which all cheer me up. |
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| Allright... you asked. I have been using a number of websites to re-educate myself about Hoyas, and I have to say, the database here is not very usable. No critique of anyone here intended or implied. It's still a young dataset. My thanks to Lee Anne, Dave, and everyone else who works on this site. I'm not enough of a computer geek to know how much flexibility there is in the cubit format, but is seems a bit dated and clunky. I wonder if it can be polished and given better flow. Two of the best Hoya websites in my eyes are Jeanette Karlsen's at growinghoyas.com and Margaretha Alma's at hoyor.net Songkra's photgraphs on his multiply site are an inspiration and very important for their documentary accuracy. I think we should aim even higher. Some specific thoughts of mine: I would like to have easier navigation between listings. I would like to see different growers opinions and experiences in culture, and know who they are and where they grow. What kind of environment (outdoors, shade house, greenhouse, in the home, under lights, etc.) What kind of potting medium? I would like the discussion of the photos and the discussion of the species to be united. Multiple pictures of the plants, leaves, peduncles, etc. are great too. I think we can dump the fields for Family and Subfamily Here are some of the things I have been using is making my own data set: Genus ( I think if we're going to have Eriostemma, we should add Centrostemma, and Dischidia) Name When and where published (multiple listings if needed) Author Collector Section Similar species Has been sold as/confused with: (compare and contrast) Forms (each one should have a page) Countries of Origin: Habitat Altitude Flower Color: Flower Size: Flower Form: Flowering season Flower longevity Scent: Peduncles - persistent or shed? Leaf size: Water Requirements Light Requirements Cultivation notes: (and here is where the database could really shine) I know this kind of a form would be very long - mine already is...  |
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| Thanks, Dave.... That information given by different folks who grow the plant would be very useful, I think. Cubits is a bit clunky...does ATP have a better format. I think Dave and Trish have put a lot of effort on ATP...perhaps more than on Cubits. Leap. The net will appear. |
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| Good evening!! I agree with Carol...I'm most interested in HOW others are growing their hoyas, i.e., light, soil mix, temperature, humidity. I like David's ideas, but I think it'd be too exhausting..as most of us wouldn't know the answers to several of the ideas..such as "author" or "collector". I'd love to know how each person grows each type of hoya...and I can adapt those cultural requirements for life here in the north. I'd love to know how HoyaDoug grows his H. kanyakumariana!! Who's been successful with H. endauensis? And if so, how on earth did you get it to survive? Do you grow your plant in soil, hydroton, s/h? Greenhouse, indoors, outdoors in the summers? An excellent idea, Carol!! Fondly, Patrick |
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| Actually, to me a Database is just that: DATA. Pictures are a bonus and the best are those that give as much info as possible. I think I have mentioned this before....AND I have lots of photos and info to add still. With 12 acres of gardens and a somewhat fascinating/busy life, Iwill find the time, somehow.  Leap. The net will appear. |
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Patrick51 wrote:Good evening!! I agree with Carol...I'm most interested in HOW others are growing their hoyas, i.e., light, soil mix, temperature, humidity. I like David's ideas, but I think it'd be too exhausting..as most of us wouldn't know the answers to several of the ideas..such as "author" or "collector". I'd love to know how each person grows each type of hoya...and I can adapt those cultural requirements for life here in the north. I'd love to know how HoyaDoug grows his H. kanyakumariana!! Who's been successful with H. endauensis? And if so, how on earth did you get it to survive? Do you grow your plant in soil, hydroton, s/h? Greenhouse, indoors, outdoors in the summers? An excellent idea, Carol!! Fondly, Patrick This is information I'd be most interested in also. Especially, Light.....Temperature range ....and Moisture....all in one spot,instead of having to run around to different sites to find. I made those comments on H. linearis as it's a cool grower, and I've found I will have to bring it inside here for the summer. Something anyone who lives in a hot/humid climate would need to know. |
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| YES!!!! The most beautiful polyneura and linearis I have ever seen were sent to me by a friend living in Arizona...her "greenhouse" was her walk in closet under skylights with the AC on. Go figger! They croaked after a month of living here! Another reason to (maybe???) buy plants/cuttings from a grower with similar conditions to yours if you can find one....  Leap. The net will appear. |
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| Yes, but I knew H.linearis was a cool grower and the person I got it from said just to bring it inside. I got it in August, so it lived in my bathroom till about the very end of September, then went outside. So I don't mind, as I think it's one of the coolest ( no pun intended LOL) Hoya's so I'm happy to accommodate it. BUT, I might not be so willing on some others, so it's good to know ahead of time. |
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My polyneura grows like a weed in summer - then drops some leaves in the winter because I heat the greenhouse for the other babes. I can't find a cool enough spot for it in winter. Too hot in the house - too cold outside!  |
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