Growing conditions forum: Let's make some new Hoyas - POLLENATE!

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Iochroma
Feb 27, 2012 11:50 AM CST
Name: David
San Francisco Bay area
I would like to invite everyone to discuss methods and techniques for pollenating Hoyas.

It seems odd to me that so few growers even attempt to pollenate their flowers. Why is this?

Have you had any successes with cross-pollenating? Any failures? All information helps everyone learn, so put it out there (here).

Would you like to see some new hybrids? What crosses would you like to see?

Imagethreegardeners
Feb 27, 2012 11:54 AM CST
Name: Lee Anne Stark
Ontario, Canada
Perpetually happy!
This is gonna be an interesting thread!

Crosses I'd like to see?
Something with huge flowers crossed with something with big red leaves Big Grin Drooling
ImagePerennialgirl
Feb 27, 2012 12:21 PM CST
Name: Donna
Winnipeg, Manitoba Zone 4
It will be very interesting. I would luv to grow some hoya seeds. Since I don't have any penducles...I won't be able to participate in ths.
Sad
ImageLauraCarnosa
Feb 27, 2012 12:43 PM CST
Name: Laura Gardiner
Manitoba, Canada
You can't 'un-ring' a bell.
A lacunosa-like fuzzy flowered H. sp 'DS 70' YEAH!

I read Michael Miyashiro uses cat whiskers? And he thinks teen-agers will have the most success, because they are young & motivated!
"When you have only two pennies left in the world, buy a loaf of bread with one, and a lily with the other."
- Chinese Proverb
plumania
Feb 27, 2012 1:17 PM CST
Name: Alka
South Florida
Well , something with attractive colors ,easy growing and great scent.
I am no good about pollinating though.
First of all mine have not bloomed yet except carnosa, nummularoides and wayettii last year.
Second, I do not know where to insert stuff to collect or deposit pollen,may be somebody can show pictures about that.
Third,I did not have any success pollinating other plant before,so there is no reason to get too excited now.
Fourth,all this naming business for these plants is just too much.


ImageHoyaDoug
Feb 27, 2012 1:47 PM CST
Name: Doug
Lamoille County, VT
I tried to get a Cat whisker into an imperialis corona, and gave up after five minutes. You have to have WAY more patience and better eye sight than I have to pull that off.
Iochroma
Feb 27, 2012 3:21 PM CST
Name: David
San Francisco Bay area
Not having a donor cat handy, I've used a dental tool to extract pollinia. I have not figured out how to slide it into place on the mother flower yet. I think we could all spend a little time dissecting flowers and getting more familiar with the inner workings of each type.
Dee2
Feb 27, 2012 6:51 PM CST
Name: Dee Enslow
Chipley, FL (panhandle)
Well I have 3 donor cats, but don't have good eye sight, and patience, let's talk about patience. Tonight I don't have any left, bad day at work then had to deal with the pharmacy on the way home. Not a way to end the day!! Grumbling

Dee
ImageLauraCarnosa
Feb 27, 2012 8:46 PM CST
Name: Laura Gardiner
Manitoba, Canada
You can't 'un-ring' a bell.
Just give me my Grumbling pills and let me be on my way! YES I've had these before, and YES my Doc told me how to take them!
"When you have only two pennies left in the world, buy a loaf of bread with one, and a lily with the other."
- Chinese Proverb
AlohaHoya
Feb 27, 2012 9:08 PM CST
Name: Carol Noel
Hawaii (near Hilo)
It's all about choices.
I don't have a steady enough hand, nor good enough eyes. When Ed Gilding has been here he runs around making crosses...but hasn't been successful as yet. He sure was when he lived in Honolulu. He uses a fine needle. He tried imperialis with a number of different eriostemmas but none took... I've had wild crosses happen in the greenhouse. One of the best as a parent is H. carnosa. I know...boring...but the result flower a lot, with loads of flowers... I have carnosa x obovata and it's a GREAT cross!!! Big Grin
Leap. The net will appear.
Iochroma
Feb 28, 2012 2:38 AM CST
Name: David
San Francisco Bay area
Maybe Ed would be good enough to give you some words of guidance for us here. Even if he has some ideas about what doesn't work, that is helpful.

Iochroma
Feb 28, 2012 3:11 PM CST
Name: David
San Francisco Bay area
re: boring old carnosa - I bet carnosa x imperialis would be anything but boring...
AlohaHoya
Feb 28, 2012 4:45 PM CST
Name: Carol Noel
Hawaii (near Hilo)
It's all about choices.
How right that is!!!!
Leap. The net will appear.
Iochroma
Feb 29, 2012 1:04 PM CST
Name: David
San Francisco Bay area
The other cross I would really like to see is bella x paxtonii - to create a "super-bella"!

I have never heard of a seed pod on either sp., so this might be mere fantasy on my part, but I'm going to have a go at it.

I have been able to drag the pollinia out of several flowers with a dental tool and with a needle. That part is easy. I think slapping those on the top of a flower's corona will work in some cases. I'm going to give it a try.
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ImageMyHoyas
Feb 29, 2012 1:45 PM CST
Name: Christina Karlsson
Sweden
I've tried several times with cat whiskers, but so far no luck. I see the "thing" (can't think in English right now) coming out with the whisker and I get it in another hoya, but no new cross so far... :sad:
ImageHoyaDoug
Feb 29, 2012 3:22 PM CST
Name: Doug
Lamoille County, VT
Dave, what kind of dental tool are you using? Is it some kind of pick? I'l like to pick one up.
Iochroma
Feb 29, 2012 3:56 PM CST
Name: David
San Francisco Bay area
Yes, Doug; I got a big set of tools, and the picks with a bit of a hook at the tip work fine. A straight needle works too.
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ImageHoyaDoug
Feb 29, 2012 5:48 PM CST
Name: Doug
Lamoille County, VT
Thanks, Dave! I cut apart an imperialis corona tonight just to see what it looks like inside. I could see parts; I guess one of the parts would be the pollinia. I wish that I had a botany background; it would be very helpful. Is there anywhere online where there are good drawings of the flower parts of Hoya?
AlohaHoya
Feb 29, 2012 11:58 PM CST
Name: Carol Noel
Hawaii (near Hilo)
It's all about choices.
The world 'rail' comes to mind...Ed used it a lot. Dave...would you like to write him?
Leap. The net will appear.
Iochroma
Mar 1, 2012 10:27 AM CST
Name: David
San Francisco Bay area
Doug, I found an article that Ed wrote in the IHS 'Fraterna', first quarter of 2000; he has a diagram. I will see if I can use it with permission.

Carol, yes, I would. Could you send me his e-mail in a c-mail?

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