Hoya talk forum: anyone ever heard of this Thai vendor??
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| http://toplants.ecrater.com/c/135090983/hoya Apparently it is an acronym for "Thai Ornamental Plants" ??? They have lowered their shipping from$40 o $15 ( or so appears??...which include Phyto)  They state their only way of shipping is EMS. However, Thai Post is on the description....Apparently someone is buying from them....they have great reviews...but its kinda sketch since the reviews don't go far back...Maybe a new company? Boy they have a a lot of beauties tho'....it is so tempting....and all their plants are rooted cuttings....a huge website if it isn't legit...but what do I know....  laurah aka \"gplainshoya\" |
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| Hi Laura, I never heard about this store, but they have nice plants. The only strange thing is the shipping price, from $40 to $15 I think it is not EMS, probably registered. Mitzi |
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| Hi Laura, I have been exchanging emails with another UK hoya grower who HAS ordered from Top Plants. These are her comments, just so you know!:- Since the earlier email, the subcalva cuttings arrived from 'Top Plants' Thailand this afternoon. These were 'above radar', complete with a prominent phytosanitary certificate on the outside of the box but, perhaps being a very small order, customs haven't intervened to open or check it. As you point out the added certificate makes the order that bit more expensive. £18 for the two cuttings + £10 postage. Having said that, they were superb, well rooted, leafy specimens - one just over 2foot long and the other one 3foot long - a ready made mature subcalva plant! From what you say of its requirements it will be very much at home under the grow lights in the humid hot orchid room. You might consider checking out 'Top Plants' and replacing your demised subcalva if they still have this available to buy. Sorry - forgot to add that this was a very recent transaction - maybe in the last 3-4 weeks. |
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@ Julie K...Thank you so much or sharing ...tho' I think you might be confusing this Laura ( me) aka "gplainshoya" with the other laura on this forum , Laura "Carnosa"... as I do not have a subcalva... ...wish i did!!! Grape Juice smell...not sure...hmm .  I always appreciate hearing about 1st/2nd hand experience with vendors overseas...I might have a go at it...good to hear your frind in UK had good experiences!  Maybe I'll be "laurah" aka "gplainshoya" to avoid confusion. This is 2nd time I have been mixed up with another forum member...LOL  laurah aka \"gplainshoya\" |
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| Thank you Mitzi...you are on the gardenweb Hoya Forum also....cool. I like being on both...you can't get enough sharing all of the hoyajoy for sure. you are prob. right @ the shipping. I'm still confused though, since they say they Only use EMS...??? ...Maybe I'll just... ask! laurah aka \"gplainshoya\" |
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Hi Laura, no I hadn't got you confused - the subcalva was just the plant that had been ordered thats all! It was more the fact that my friend had been very pleased with both the service and quality of the plants she had received from Top Plants..  |
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Oh, Gosh! I am so Attention Deficited!..  So sorry...I know realize that was a quote from your friend...I'm such a space cadet! laurah aka \"gplainshoya\" |
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| Hi Hoya gang, I believe that Top Plants is also Plumerin http://plumerin.ecrater.com/c/1533386/hoya-variegated Same photos, same inventory. I have ordered from Plumerin via eBay. They sell cuttings as Iyares and rooted plants as Plumerin (two differet eBay ID's) I've received very nice cuttings and rooted plants from them and they promptly replaced dead plants for free but I had to pay the add'l shipping. My plants were sent in an envelope via regular mail (if I recall correctly) I could be off here on the vendor but I think they are one in the same. Perception is Unique! |
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| ".......Maybe I'll be "laurah" aka "gplainshoya" to avoid confusion. This is 2nd time I have been mixed up with another forum member...LOL " Heeh heeh. |
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@ Plumania...LOL  @ Lali .... yes the two Thai vendors they do look very similar, don't they? I think however, they are different since for example, one carries h. sp. Kalimantan (Toplants.com) and the other (Plumerin) does not....also...the prices of Hoya Lambii are different on each. I think the "ecrater" store platform creates the similarity....or these stores are own by rivaling families?!?! ha-ha...on the "about" link, the descriptions of the business *is* same ( administrative office in Bangkok, with the nursery on each being 10 acres..one is 70km away (on Plumerin), and 100km away on Toplants.com ....Curious., isn't it? Maybe they are franchises, with central Bangkok headquarters. Blah blah...I am ( in)famously known in my family for being an obsessive internet researcher...to the point of boring people like crazy. Anyway...great to know have not heard Any negatives about either of these vendors so far.... laurah aka \"gplainshoya\" |
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| Do you think it could be ONE vendor who brokers for two separate nurseries? I know that one Thai seller IS a broker (Apodagis) and doesn't have his own nursery. With the population being so dense in Asia...you think all those HUGE nursersies really exist? Just sayin'...... Leap. The net will appear. |
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| Something to think about.... "When you have only two pennies left in the world, buy a loaf of bread with one, and a lily with the other." - Chinese Proverb |
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| Interesting, Plumerin desapear..... I tried to reach she or he (never found out) but they never respond my email! I haven't seen them on ebay anymore. Now I'm curious, are they the same? And Plumerin has her/his on site http://plumerin.com/home/html/home.html I have 2 friends here that uses to buy her hoyas, I did many times, not anymore because I can reach her/him Mitzi |
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| I have ordered from ecrater (topplants) . there was a mix up when they shipped the plants (forgot to put in the phyto) and USDA confiscated the plants. When I emailed them they replaced the order with no problem. They explained they were just starting up and the paperwork was forgotten. I paid for EMS the first time $35 and they didn't charge me for the 2nd shipment or shipping. The plants that I received from them were very healthy and larger than expected. I have also ordered from plumerin and I don't believe they are the same. I do know that ecrater send me an email asking about my purchasing experience with them and if there were any problems. I order from Thailand several times a year and have done so for several years with no problems. Just my .02 worth. There is one on ebay I have ordered from and won't again but just my opinion. Dee |
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| Thank you again, Dee. I have ordered from overseas also, usu. good luck. Thank you so much!!!! laurah aka \"gplainshoya\" |
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| Just ordered 5 minutes ago at topplants, now I´ll see how all comes out... Hoya benguetensis Hoya camphorifolia Hoya collina Hoya praetorii Hoya excavata When I look at the e-bay prices here in Germany for a praetorii, I made a really good deal now... There is one on e-bay for 38€ and has still 5 days to go, I bet with s&h it´ll cost more than 50€, I´ve spend for all the plants above 61€ including shipping and certificates..... Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. Albert Einstein |
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Cool Daniel...let us know ( please!) how it all turns out...and please also take pics...I am excited to see!  laurah aka \"gplainshoya\" |
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| Nice one Daniel. I hope you get some fanstastic plants!. |
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| Good luck Daniel, I hope they come all in perfect shape! |
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| hmmm, they are quite quick, two hours ago I got the mesage that my order is on the way, including tracking number....the story goes on.... Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. Albert Einstein |
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